Explaining why 'cis' is offensive

No Lord, CJ didn't actually say that but the reasoning is Genderist reasoning (if you can call it that)...

Being cat called and sexually harassed = cis privilege

Menstruation and other gynaecological stuff = cis privilege

Pregnancy and childbirth = cis privilege

And iirc there was a blog talking about the cis privilege of abortion ffs.

This is why women and girls must stfu and check our cis privilege wrt anything to do with actual female biology and how it affects our lives and centre the brace&stunning instead.

Meet the new (Genderist) boss, same as the old boss.

eresh I once had that [it is just a description like tall, or fat] thrown at me. I can just imagine the head tilt as they were typing, I have to admit I disengaged at that point, I shouldn't have explain why I find it offensive and it ends up just trying to argue with a toddler - why? but?

I like Kenan Malik's observation about identity politics:

'In the space of twenty years, I went from being called Indian, to Pakistani, to Asian, to Black, to Muslim.'

• how that correlates

Laughed at that joke because I'm Northern Irish.

I suppose here Catholic/protestant has much more to it than religious beliefs or practice .. it encompasses identity, community and Irish nationalist Vs unionist.

His that correlated with the gender/cis analogy I don't know.

I find if offensive because its defining women in relation to trans women , a v small percentage of the population and not biologically women. It's forcing trans as though it is a norm or the norm and we have to be defined by that. No, were we're and you're transwomen.

So I remain the only person "in the closet" at my work and I get to worry about people mistaking my choice not to literally wear a badge as perhaps being against LGBT+ when that's very much not true.

@terryleather please say you made that up as an example and CJ didn't actually say that?!

I agree with lots of what has been written here, and also I just don't want a term made up and foisted on me by people who are not even in the category. I don't want to "identify as" or be referred to as a made up word that I don't feel affinity with. Woman is perfectly adequate to describe me thanks, and any further descriptions as to my sex, gender or sexuality are none of anybody else's beeswax.

I'm feeling under indirect pressure at work to "come out" as cis, an ally, or whatever. I strongly support LGB+ rights (and I strongly support the rights of T but not at the expense of W) but to label myself an ally would imply that I'm heterosexual, and a) I'm not even sure what sexuality box I fit into, (and fuck boxes anyway) and b) it's none of anybody else's business!

phew. I needed that rant.

There is only one type of woman, the adult human female kind, whether they be black, white, lesbian, straight, infertile or have birthed 8 children, fat, thin, the queen or a homeless woman begging on the street. If a person is not an adult human female then they‘re not a woman. End of. I see no reason or point in arguing otherwise with anybody who doesn’t already know this, because they’re clearly a bit thick or delusional, so all the explaining in the world will make no difference. People can believe whatever old guff they like but I want no part of it.

And it allows lumpen AGP straight males to appropriate the identity, struggles and rights of the LGB community. Sickening.

This too Nottonight

Loving the term lumpen AGP btw!

The term cis allows privileged white middle class men to claim oppression by females.

In the bs world of the Genderist that makes C.Jenner more oppressed than for eg Malala Yousafzai who should "check her cis-privileged"

Its a pile of utter wank.

Love that, horse. Gave me a laugh.

Thank you!

Sometimes in the face of this utter madness I feel the only way through is with humour.

Prick the silly balloon.

Love that, horse. Gave me a laugh.

I can't stand this whole cis business. This thread is helping me to articulate why.

It's a catchier name than "gender atheist"

No, I think agender is their term, which is fully buying into the ideology. I see genderfree as a rejection of gender in all its forms.

Alex von Tunzelmann (@alexvtunzelmann) Tweeted:
Rejecting being described as “cis” is like rejecting being described as “tall” or “blonde”. You may describe yourself however you wish, but these adjectives have a descriptive use. Of course, what he means is “I consider myself the norm.” t.co/I3OckDnI3I twitter.com/alexvtunzelmann/status/1117759884370563072?s=17

The replies to this are golden. As are her further tweets. She then blocked everyone.

Yes, it's a good analogy and works alongside the concept of 'genderfree'.

When is a gull not a gull?

When it's a cis-tern.

(toilet humour, sorry..)

If some women can be cis and some trans (e.g. male), then the definition of woman is not biological. Only people who're happy to redefine woman away from adult human female can accept cis.

I think your analogy works perfectly.

I was trying to explain why 'cis' was bollocks to a colleague who had only this week come across it. It can be quite tricky even though it's perfectly straightforward to me.

I like that analogy dianebrewster.

Saw this on twitter from Cinnamon Girl. Similar to NellieEllie’s post.

I am not a cis woman. I am a woman. I wholly respect & endorse the rights & protections of the trans community. My doing so does NOT contradict my rejection of this word. Acceptance of the word hinges on acceptance of an ideology which am I not legally bound to accept.

twitter.com/for29years/status/1117746686804283392?s=21