All-males college excludes TW. And they don't like it up 'em!

For the record though, my opinion is transwomen should absolutely be allowed in male colleges. And transmen in female ones. given they are segregated by sex rather than fashion choices and such. 'Non-binary' people it should go on their actual sex also.

I just find it amusing that the fight has been for womens spaces, but as soon as they are excluded from mens spaces, its still horrific and violent and so on Surely its transphobic to whinge about transmen being seen as the men they are inside and transwomens gender identity to be acknowledged?!

And at worst, it is violent and a clear target against trans femmes which includes women and nonbinary femmes.”

Well theres a change eh?

If TRAs want to fight to be in womens colleges, then surely it makes sense they would be excluded from mens?! Unless its a case of having ones cake and eating it. Surely not!

In fact female, woman, girl all refer to sex so we need them back, ta.

Note as well that person says they are not just a woman but female.

The argument has been that "woman" is a Social category which everyone knows it isn't.

Female is a social category as well.

There are no words to denote physical sex.

First female to graduate FFS.

Like that soldier.

Taking a first for "women" when it would literally have been impossible for a cunty woman to do it.

And not even noticing / having any kind of idea that this is a bit of an issue.

Because it's all about them and it's all about men.

trans people are claiming to be genderfluid claiming to be breaking down gender norms but actually they are reinforcing them
The message from trans people is that characteristics traditionally associated with the other sex are not acceptable, if you are a man and there is anything that could be deemed feminine about you then you must become a woman

When a man says he wants to be considered a woman but he's still retains his penis his message is that he wants to be considered a woman when that is to his advantage but he also wants to retain his male privilege

That is why they are super pissed about not having access to male privilege, essentially they are still men and the essence of masculinity is to do with male privilege (as symbolised by the penis)

Wouldn't their dysphoria be utterly triggered being in such a male environment. Would they demand their female safe space?

Needmoresleep

I agree that this nonsense is triggering a much bigger backlash from religious groups than anywhere else. At the UN conference on Women and Girls last month the only group to address this issue and how damaging it was to women's progress were the Holy See, and they were pissed about it.

I have to admit, if the old saying "the left think women are public property, the right think women are private property" - i.e the left want us back in the brothels, the right want us back in the home - is true, then I'm taking my chances with the right! Though both positions are clearly deeply fucked up.

Typo above, should be "EITHER" not "another"

Calleighdoodle
And both men and women should be allowed to experiment with different styles (makeup, clothes etc) without risking their education.

this confused me. is this what makes someone a man or a woman

Depends who you ask!
Not in my opinion, no.

But it does seem rare now for students to wear clothes associated with the opposite sex without another identifying as or being labelled as trans by others.
I am not sure what would happen if a male student, who identified as male wanted to wear makeup and a dress at this College - how would he prove he was a man, and entitled to a degree from the college?
If it's not biological sex, and it's not presentation that distinguishes male from female, then how the hell could a college enforce a "male only" rule?
It renders the idea of single sex (or gender) meaningless, however you define sex and gender. (Unless sex is defined according to biological reality.)

But surely letting them in would be denying their womanhood and an act of literal violence?

I assumed it meant that students would have to graduate with an ‘M’ on the degree certificate, rather than be kicked out for socially/medically transitioning?

...that seems compassionate and reasonable.

it must be tough to be told that after your 4 years of study you won't be getting your degree qualification. I wonder what, if any, feasible options there would be to transfer to/study at another college?

this really does seem unfair, but I assume US colleges operate quite independently. If there's no transfer route, kicking out people (who are still of the correct sex, of course) may fit genderist 'logic' but is IMO nasty.

I know one of the remaining women's colleges in Cambridge doesn't kick out their students if they want to transition to TM, but will try to assist them to move to a mixed college if they want to - and it's within the same university so it's the same course. (I'd guess the other two women's colleges have similar policy, but I've not actually read those). Anyhow, that seems

It sounds like a poor decision by the college. Nevertheless I will take my laughs wherever I can find them.

Where are The Bewilderness’ Rules of Misogyny when you need them?

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/6kkeni/theerulesoffmisogyny/

I keep a tab open on my browser

I had a quick look to see what admissions policies were on women's colleges and it looks like each sets their own so there's no standard. Some admit TW and some do not. Narcissists obviously don't do irony when it comes to their own 'rights' but it must be tough to be told that after your 4 years of study you won't be getting your degree qualification. I wonder what, if any, feasible options there would be to transfer to/study at another college?

Sympathy over though, this statement made me wonder whether there isn't a subset of the trans community whose aim it is to front a "first trans woman to ....... " list.

"[I will] make history as the first fully transitioned woman in the school's 152-year history and the first female on the student record since the 1930s to earn a degree," she said.

We've heard it boasted before several times.

Though I can see why the College did it. Socially/culturally in the US simple sex segregation would probably be near impossible.

Something that has surprised my student DD at a RG University in the UK, is the strength of Christian Union evangelising. With the NUS going down their own woke rabbit hole, the CU have taken up the slack and dominate several societies and course student representative positions. (Its a pain because there are issues that might be better solved by negotiating with the University than by prayer, but it is up to the students themselves to ensure they have reps who recognise the importance of temporal aims as well as eternal salvation.) If this is happening in the UK, I assume the same patterns exist in the US. The whole woke stuff is confusing and illogical so you retreat to the black and white of fundamental religion.

Oh to be a University administrator.

I know it’s terribly unchristian of me to gloat over the misfortunes of others, but this news of the TRAs tying themselves in knots to try and now insist that transwomen are men after all, absolutely made my day!

I almost feel sorry for the staff that made this decision in good faith, believing that they were doing the ‘right’ thing and supporting trans people by recognising their gender identity over their birth sex.

No doubt they will be waking up to work account emails telling them to die in a fire, despite having followed the (written) TRA rule book.

Shame no one warned them about the unwritten rule, that penis-people should never, ever be told no.

Where are The Bewilderness’ Rules of Misogyny when you need them?

Well, you can't go around screaming that 'TWAW' then complain that women (including you) can't go to a Men's College because you're a woman.

”I think the college are calling out the bullshit in a deliciously passive aggressive way.”

If they are doing so to highlight the issue, then good. This article is the clearest demonstration so far that transwomen are demanding more rights than everyone else.

No, this isn't a win at all. My laughter is rueful, rather than triumphant.

Yes, if it is an environment where male stereotypes are of paramount importance, I can’t imagine it would be much fun for any woman to attend, even one who feels compelled to comply with masculine stereotypes