Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Uniex toilets , who likes them ?

95 replies

daisy64 · 14/04/2019 18:08

As much as I feel that women deserve equal rights I really cant stand going into a public loo after a strange man comes out , how do you feel ?

OP posts:
FeministCat · 16/04/2019 05:16

We have self-contained unisex toilets at my work and at my gym. The work ones are okay most of the time - we are a small office and there are only three toilets so I think it keeps everyone honest. Sometimes though visitors really make a mess of them (one man seemed to purposely come to our office daily to do his business and leave a mess...until we banned him from the premises...). The ones at my gym can get really gross I notice and I am under no illusions as to why - I see piss on the floor a foot away from toilet bowl: that’s not from a woman hovering.

Still, prefer them to mixed sex toilets with shared sink facilities for example, especially conscious after this after I had a mishap with my cup today when it slipped my grasp and though yikes, if at 40 and after ten years I can still have a messy mishap I really feel for teenage girls being forced to share their toilets with teenage boys.

StopThePlanet · 16/04/2019 05:04

@MenuPlant

100% agree!

Your post really wasn't that long. I mean have you seen my posts? Halo lol

Nothankyounotforme · 16/04/2019 01:05

Not I and not my daughter and her friends at school who are being forced to use unisex toilets with urine all over the toilet and floor. The girls avoid drinking water so they can avoid using the toilet after first lesson. I really do not like unisex toilets, in saying that though, my very clean male partner doesn't like using male toilets either.

Erythronium · 15/04/2019 22:22

Had to use one again today. This time there was piss all over the floor in front of the toilet. Absolutely disgusting. Never seen anything like that in a women's toilet. It was in a newly built building so they could have designed the toilets any way they wanted, but their solution was a row of single cubicle unisex toilets with washbasins in each one This is a place where lots of parents take their children. I wouldn't want to have to deal with a pre-schooler or a baby in a disgusting place like that.

Natsku · 15/04/2019 19:18

They had them in the last two places I worked (self contained ones, not rows of cubicles), first one it was mostly women working there so it was alright and they were kept spotlessly clean, second one was usually alright but sometimes it reeked and I only think a cleaner came once a week.

They have them in DD's school (again, self contained ones) and I had to use one at the parents evening and it reeked, urgh.

JenFromTheGlen · 15/04/2019 18:27

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/04/2019 18:22

Nope. Last one I used - well we into and left quickly - has shit speared over the walls. It was as if someone had exploded a chocolate mousse but I won’t even try to describe the smell.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 15/04/2019 18:17

As I said ^^ . I don’t think it’s normal. It didn’t feel normal. The bin was outside the cubicle and I could have been walking out with anything in my hand.
The man bardged in and didn’t ask or speak to me to see if it was ok. Sharing a sink with a man in a unisex cubicle wasn’t ok.

feelingverylazytoday · 15/04/2019 18:11

It depends how well designed and maintained they are really. My worst ever public loo experience was in a women's only toilet where someone had thoughtfully spread shit everywhere and I put my hand right in it.
Thegoalls men say the same thing about women's toilets, I think it's the difference in phemerones.
Let's face it though, most people of both sexes prefer same sex toilets.

Mankyfoot · 15/04/2019 15:38

Horrible. I have stopped going to our local bar because last time I went in the unisex toilets the floor and seat were covered in piss. It stank too. I dropped my phone on the floor and it was covered in sticky stale piss when I picked it up Envy same at some petrol stations. I refuse to stop at ones with a unisex toilet, they're always foul. God knows what some blokes do in there.

MenuPlant · 15/04/2019 15:32

jasper makes sense the girls move the sanitary bins or point this out to someone?

HorsewithnoFrills · 15/04/2019 15:26

I have used single sex loos that were utterly vile and filthy and disgusting. So loos don't bother me.

That makes sense.

(Or does it?)

JasperTheFriendlyGhost · 15/04/2019 15:22

They are in DD’s school. Only half of them have sanitary bins so all the girls use them but the boys go wherever. DD and her friends have told me that they don’t drink before or during school so that they don’t need to use them. DD came home from school the other day though and said they’ve put stickers on the doors saying male and female, but they’ve put the male stickers on the cubicles that have all the sanitary bins in so the females don’t have any Confused

MenuPlant · 15/04/2019 15:16

Muna what about schools?

I think it's awful expecting girls to deal with first periods with boys outside, it was bad enough when it was girls outside! And they aren't necessarily being remodelled -

In public venues they have gone to "men" and "any gender" so this increases queues for women while men still have their own. That can't be right.

S1naidSucks · 15/04/2019 15:12

Refuges bother me, sexual assault centres bother me. Loos are nothing in comparison.

Mixed sex loos mean that abusive men can follow women straight into them. Do you not remember ever going into the women’s toilets to escape a creepy or pushy Male, when you were out at a night club? Young women no longer have that option. They really were considered a ‘safe space’, long before the ‘woke’ started using that term. In a women’s only loo, a man will get called out if he tried to follow a woman into a toilet.

There has been an increase in voyeurism and sexual assaults on women and children in toilets and changing rooms since the increase in mixed sex usage. For those who believe it’s ‘just a toilet’, it’s more that that. It’s the first step in eradicating women’s spaces. It started as ‘only a toilet’ and has already progressed to ‘it’s only a changing room’.

MunaZaldrizoti · 15/04/2019 14:40

Loos don't bother me. I have used single sex loos that were utterly vile and filthy and disgusting. So loos don't bother me.

Refuges bother me, sexual assault centres bother me. Loos are nothing in comparison.

grasspigeons · 15/04/2019 14:40

it totally depends on the environment. Small village café with only one loo. Fine. My particular work place with only 2 loos and a small friendly staff. Fine. At the train station or the public loos in town - I cant see that I would ever go to a unisex one as I avoid these anyway but would make even more effort to do so. I might possibly go with a group of girls for safety I guess.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 15/04/2019 14:39

Single contained room, fine. However I suspect more cleaners would need to be employed if more unisex loos were available, as god knows why but the stench of man piss is so much worse than womens from my experience

notatwork · 15/04/2019 14:39

At a festival last year where one cabin held 6 cubicles for women and the other side held 6 'unisex cubicles', then a separate cabin with a urinal for 18 and 4 cubicles for men.
All the women queued for the women's cubicles (except the end one as there was a significant gap to the 'unisex' one next door).
A few men and teens used the unisex ones.
Men mostly used the mens ones.
So 50% of us on that campsite using 5/34 of the facility. And not one woman complained.

ShouldBeCookingDinner · 15/04/2019 14:32

It's indirect discrimination.

Their pee is the last of my worries, it's them jerking off on the seat or toilet paper in the hope that a woman is next in there, and planting hidden cameras to record us (which they could share or sell on the internet too). It's being a confined space where men can be near the door and can easily push his way inside with the woman/girl when she is leaving or going in.

Some men wipe their snot on the walls as well as being incapable of flushing.

EBearhug · 15/04/2019 14:24

I'm currently on holiday, so I have been using lots of public loos in museums and cafes and so on. Some of these have been unisex, of the type which are totally enclosed, loo and basin, floor to ceiling walls and doors, and they're fine - plus must make more sense for small cafes with limited space. I haven't seen any with shared sinks, but I'd be less comfortable with those.

MenuPlant · 15/04/2019 14:18

The reason for the usual discrepancy in cleanliness etc (most people's experience is womens cleaner than mens only a few say vice versa) is that women are generally expected to / used to doing the cleaning at home etc and from when we are girls we are held to higher standards while the boys are allowed to be manky,

Plus the boys are used to being cleaned up after (not all families but most IME)

Plus women are socialised to be a bit more thoughtful - those coming after and the cleaners

Plus cleaners are often women and I think, IME in loads of situations, men see women who do cleaning and stuff, or rather they don't see them. While women do see them.

This is borne out in a million tropes about men living by themselves, male students teens etc being manky bastards isn't it?

All stereotypes obviously but in my day to day life it's pretty true. Even at a low level, the men in my workplaces have been much more likely to leave crumbs, mess, not put things in the bin. And when things need a wipe or a tidy you get an exec woman leaping up to do it while the men just all sit around. It just doesn't occur to them, it's not on their radar, it's not "their job".

Anyway sorry essay there!

MenuPlant · 15/04/2019 14:12

I'm not keen even before all this - places where there is only 1 loo and everyone shares always seem to be less clean, more likely to have run out of toilet paper, piss everywhere etc but I wonder if that's because they're smaller places with less resources generally.

grannycake · 15/04/2019 14:07

We have them in the college where I work. I find they remain cleaner than the old student toilets and less students hanging around inside the toilets

HorsewithnoFrills · 15/04/2019 14:05

Me! I like unisex loos, I've always wondered what men's loos are like and it feels very exciting!

You must be one in a million.

Do you feel special?