Transgender rights in Ireland -- what's going on?

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Lamaha · 14/04/2019 07:15

This is reposted from another thread, quoting @Nobodysblackerthanme:

spunout.ie/life/article/recommendations-gender-recognition-act

"The report also recommended that a legal process be put in place for cases where there is not consent from both parents or it is not possible or safe to get consent."

@Nobody said: "Ireland likes to think itself as being ahead of the curve in whatever is trending (smoking ban, plastic bag tax) . I think this is just another example."

I have to say, I haven't noticed any of this, I didn't even know the law had changed in favour of TRA's. If anything, in practical terms, in daily life, it all seems pretty old-school where I live. I haven't come across any mixed sex loos, not even in Dublin.

Are Ireland's TRAs just not as aggressive as elsewhere? Is it sneakily creeping in? What is really going on? How did this happen?
If they start teaching it in school I'll be going ballistic!

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ludog · 14/04/2019 10:47

Thank goodness my youngest is doing LC so I don't have to deal with this. Mind you, she's quite woke so I worry about peer influences in 3rd level. My older two are very GC from listening to me! Dh thinks I'm exaggerating and spending too much time online (he has a point about that, to be fair )

WipeYourFeet · 14/04/2019 10:40

www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/supporting-transgender-students-in-schools-34602473.html
This article is old but interesting about how TENI advise & train schools.

Their guidelines also state :
Single-gender activities: Separate activities for boys and girls, both sporting and academic, should be reduced or eliminated.
Not very fair on girls that ? Particularly around sports.

WipeYourFeet · 14/04/2019 10:34

They are teaching this in my DD's secondary school, under SPHE and RSE
This is the teachers' resource guide sphe.ie/downloads/resources/LGBT-English-Print.pdf (sorry if that's not a clicky link, I don't know how to do them on the app)
There are lessons for Junior and Senior cycle on Transgenderism.
It seems fairly mild and is really up to the teacher how the deep the lesson goes into it- however if you follow the trail of supporting resources ....
It's sponsored by BelongTo and TENI. I don't know about who funds them but the TENI site in its publications section features Stonewall Scotland, GIRES & Gendered Intelligence. www.teni.ie/page.aspx?contentid=118

It is happening in our schools - 2 girls in my DDs year briefly came out as trans (for about a week) but it seems it was an attention seeking stunt.
Another local secondary school is very woke, has several trans kids and I believe they are allowed to use the toilets of their choosing - I don't know about sports participation.
There is a school in the south east - previously a single sex girls school which changed to be a mixed sex school to accommodate a transboy who wished to remain in the school with their friends - this was hailed as oh so progressive by the speakers from BelongTo & TENI who told us this at a talk in my workplace. They wouldn't name the school as they didn't wish to "out" the child.

By the by - in my DD's school they have skipped the chapter on transgenderism!

ludog · 14/04/2019 08:11

Sneakily creeping in I think. Although if you attempt to offer any type of GC opinion you will be villified.

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