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Lessons from Canada: Meghan Murphy speaking in Glasgow 24th May

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 13/04/2019 21:40

Thought this might be of interest to some...

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/lessons-from-canada-tickets-60344167028

For Women Scotland is a nationwide group founded in June 2018 to safeguard and strengthen the rights of women and girls. Our campaign focuses on proposed changes by the Scottish Government to devolved legislation: we aim to ensure that women will be consulted throughout this process.

Important and far-reaching legislative changes are affecting women and girls in many countries across the world. We are delighted Meghan Murphy and Bec Wonders have accepted our invitation to speak in Glasgow about their experiences in Canada, and consider similarities to the proposed changes in Scotland.

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 22/05/2019 22:56

I hope someone will report back from it/live tweet it. Or will it be streamed, even?

sheteheyhim · 22/05/2019 22:39

Wasn’t sure if I’d be free but now I am it’s sold out. That’s good but annoyed I’ll miss it!

JackyHolyoake · 22/05/2019 21:50

The issue here is:

do women and girls consent to men denying them their right to impose their own boundaries to safeguard themselves from male sexual offence? [See: www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents ]

We all know as fact that no human can ever change sex. So, we all know as fact that the convolutions of transgenderist ideology and practice is a falsehood. [Hint: "trangenderism" is a male sexual fetish / paraphilia - see also autogynephilia.]

The question that must be answered is:

do women and girls consent to such behaviour by men being imposed upon them?

2rebecca · 22/05/2019 21:20

My husband commented on Meghan when he got home from work having heard her at 7.15. He was impressed with the way she spoke and didn't think much of transactivists wanting getting a GRC to be cheap and quick. Identifying permanently as the opposite sex and a life of wanting people to treat you as a woman when you are male should be difficult and you should have to have severe gender dysphoria to go through with it.

JackyHolyoake · 22/05/2019 20:43

From BBC report:

" "Trans people have for decades being using changing rooms and toilets without an issue ," he [James Morton of Scottish Trans Alliance] said.

The problem here, James, is that you haven't actually consulted any women and girls about evidence to verify the statement you make about there being no issue..

Women and girls are far too scared to challenge any cross-dressing male in their private spaces exactly because of the risk of male aggression and violence. These men have been violating the boundaries of women and girls for what you claim to be decades fully against our consent. These men have forced themselves on women and girls and women and girls were never asked if this was acceptable to them.

So the issue here, James, is that women and girls have never consented to those cross dressing males being able to access our private spaces.

Thus, what we have here is James advocating for men who engage in expressing rape culture; that is, the violation of the boundaries of women and girls against their consent.

2rebecca · 22/05/2019 20:23

That is a brilliant quote from Meghan on the BBC website

Daughterofmabel · 22/05/2019 20:09

In the days when I just had a map I spent a lot of time lost in side streets
I get lost even with one! I love Glasgow but hate driving around it. Coming in on the train this time. Excited to meet mn gc fems!

JackyHolyoake · 22/05/2019 19:58

It seems that the live tweets for the meeting including Meghan Murphy and Becca from Vancouver Public Library displayed via #MeghanSP are unavailable for some reason.

Another source for live tweets is this Twitter account:

Dr Fox up a Thorntree

@TJVRD

JackyHolyoake · 22/05/2019 19:44

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 22/05/2019 19:10

confused by this quote in above article, from the Trans Alliance:

'"I think the vast majority of the Scottish public do want people to live with dignity ....they want some more MDF cubicles in changing rooms, they don't want to ban all trans people."'

Is this some new category of trans persons, or does he really mean medium density fibreboard?

ScrimshawTheSecond · 22/05/2019 19:07

BBC report on Murphy here: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48366184

2rebecca · 22/05/2019 18:42

Meghan sounding great on radio scotland at about 7.14 this morning and the issue was mentioned again at about 6.15pm on radio Scotland as she's speaking at Holyrood today

2rebecca · 21/05/2019 22:20

I'm going after work so hope I will make it in time. Glasgow can be a nightmare to negotiate although having a satnav has made things easier. In the days when I just had a map I spent a lot of time lost in side streets

Trinalbcnotanonman · 21/05/2019 21:21

Going with my mum, need to ask my sister.

CharlieParley · 20/05/2019 21:05

If you're going to the meeting and would like to meet up beforehand so you're not alone, please feel free to send me a PM.

Lumisade · 19/05/2019 14:30

Just booked my ticket.

youllhavehadyourtea · 26/04/2019 15:13
youllhavehadyourtea · 25/04/2019 08:54

Glasgow Life also run all the city libraries and many cultural venues too, which are available for hire to groups. I wonder........

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 25/04/2019 03:47

Maybe everyone could bring swimming trunks and pop over for a gym session after the talk?

youllhavehadyourtea · 24/04/2019 22:47

I wonder if it will be held at a Glasgow Life venue?

That would be fun.

youllhavehadyourtea · 24/04/2019 08:45

bump

PlayYouLikeAShark · 22/04/2019 13:55

Bumpity bump - come along and hear what Meghan & Bec can tell us about how transgenderism has impacted women in Canada. Gwan, you know you want to.☺️

youllhavehadyourtea · 18/04/2019 08:34

MacBumpy MacBumpface.

terryleather · 16/04/2019 07:29

It's been too long Sonic!

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 16/04/2019 07:11

Ticket bought. Can't wait for this! Will be great to see everyone again too - terry I've not seen you in ages!

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