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Do i put the fathers name on my babys birth certificate?

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emmajayne89 · 13/04/2019 17:16

My partner and I split up towards the end of my first trimester after i discovered he had been having an inappropriate/flirtatious relationship with a female 'friend' of his and he had lied about it throughout our entire relationship. After coming to terms with this he agreed with therapy but he was continuuing to lie to me about things (silly things like his age and what hes doing- pathological lying), so i had to call an end to the relationship.

he wants to be involved in our babys life as much as he can be, so i've said he needs to demonstrate hes taking therapy seriously and hes improving and being truthful to himself and his family and friends and i will incorporate him into the babys life as well as trial coparenting.

The issue is whether i add him to the birth certificate or not. I know I wont restrict his time with our child unless i believe its well justified (and backed up by several impartial views before any changes are made). He is immature in a lot of ways and to an exaggerated level than is acceptable for his age and is currently being combatted in therapy.

What is the right thing to do? Add him because after all he is the father, or dont add him to protect myself from possible drama in the future? I had already advised him that if he can provide proof of payment for therapy then child support doesnt need to be considered unless he gets a promotion/able to afford both.

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Quietlife333 · 13/04/2019 18:59

I wouldn’t. Sign it yourself and if he wants to put his name on later then he can apply to do that. He has proven himself to be a liar. You don’t want to be chained to this man.

sue51 · 13/04/2019 18:52

I agree with Ribbonsonabox. He can get himself added to the birth certificate and show some commitment to his child. He has been severely lacking in it so far.

queenscot · 13/04/2019 18:41

@Ribbonsonabox is spot on. If he is committed he will get on it.

I am incredibly grateful for advice not to put my ex on my son's birth certificate. He vanished and likes to be incredibly secret, which is fine, but not if they have paternal rights for schools, medical and for going abroad. My son's father wanted to be on the birth certificate and I think I've seen him once in Waitrose since, he ignored me!

Gingerkittykat · 13/04/2019 18:40

What country are you in? I'm curious because the rule about therapy and child support would not apply in the UK.

PerspicaciaTick · 13/04/2019 18:34

He would need to attend the registration appointment with you.
You can very easily re-register your child's birth at a later stage (right into adulthood) by filling in a simple form and attending a registrar appointment together.
He can contact GRO and get himself added against your wishes if he goes down the route of court orders and DNA.
Personally I think the father should be on the certificate, it should be a statement of fact, not a moral judgement on his parenting. However I know it can complicate life, so it is your call.

PCohle · 13/04/2019 18:25

I would.

He can have himself added to the birth certificate later if he applies to court anyway. All refusing to facilitate it yourself will do is set off your co-parenting relationship on a confrontational, uncooperative footing.

In my view a birth certificate is a legal document that should accurately reflect the circumstances of your child birth. It shouldn't be used as a weapon between parents.

How would you feel if you had to demonstrate your worthiness as a mother to your ex or else go to court before you were legally recognised as your own child's mother?

keepingspiritsup · 13/04/2019 18:21

Wow OP what an example to set your child - by punishing their father. Of course you should put him on he is the FATHER - you said you want him involved in the babies life and will also accept child support from him!! So you can't have it both ways!

Ribbonsonabox · 13/04/2019 18:19

@KaterinaPetrova no in order for the father to be on the certificate he has to go in with the mother and sign it. Unless they are married in which case one parent can sign for both.
It's not just a listing of biological parents it's an indicator of who has parental responsibility for the child legally. It's a very bad idea to have someone you do not trust sign it with you.

NaturatintGoldenChestnut · 13/04/2019 18:15

I wouldn't. I wouldn't facilitate all the contact and therapy and all that shit, either. He's an adult, let him step up.

BertrandRussell · 13/04/2019 18:14

If he’s on the birth certificate he gets automatic parental responsibility. You may not want this.

KaterinaPetrova · 13/04/2019 18:12

The birth certificate lists the child's biological parents, no? So no matter how anyone feels about him, he is the child's father and I think he should be put on the birth certificate.
My own dad was a shit, lying crapbag of a husband to my mum and a terrible partner to his girlfriends but he was still my dad and wasn't as bad a father to me as he was a partner in his relationships.

BertrandRussell · 13/04/2019 18:04

“Just because someone is an awful partner doesn't mean they will be an awful parent.”

No- but it’s a pretty big bloody clue.

Particularly when modeling how relationships work is a big part of being a good parent. And that includes modeling an “apart” parenting relationship.

HappyPunky · 13/04/2019 18:04

Give the baby your last name.
To go on the birth certificate he has to attend to register the baby. He can go on later if you want him to. If he's not on there's just a line through father.

Ginger1982 · 13/04/2019 18:03

It's a personal choice but I wouldn't use it as a punishment because he's been a shit partner. He might be a great dad. However, it will give him rights that you need to be comfortable with him having.

Ribbonsonabox · 13/04/2019 18:00

It doesnt mean they wont though! And why should you hand them rights on a plate if you barely know them or have good reason to suspect they may use it to abuse you or disappear?!
Fathers can have their names added later if they care to do so.
I dont think any woman should invite a man to sign the register with her unless she completely trusts him.

reallybadidea · 13/04/2019 17:53

Insisting on being on the birth certificate is just they sort of thing an abusive “I demand my rights” sort of man would do.

True. But it still puts another obstacle in their way.

OP, I definitely think you should wait and see how things pan out. What are you planning to do about the baby's surname?

allthingsred · 13/04/2019 17:51

I shouldn't read these threads as it just winds me up.
Yes of course you should put him on bc. He is the father.
Jeez if it was the other way & a dad asking should I put mothers name there would be uproar.
It is crap having father ...unknown...on a bc.
This is coming from someone who has it on hers.
Just because someone is an awful partner doesn't mean they will be an awful parent.

Chocolate35 · 13/04/2019 17:50

I wouldn’t. As others have said, you can always add it. I didn’t put my exes name on the birth certificate and after 15 years I stand by my decision, he’s never met her so it would have been a nightmare every time we went away.

sawdustformypony · 13/04/2019 17:47

As you (OP) say, he is the father. It's not his rights that are important, instead its the child's right to have a proper relationship with his/her father that should prevail.

Bluestitch · 13/04/2019 17:45

No don't put him on, and make sure the baby has your surname too.

Ribbonsonabox · 13/04/2019 17:43

Yes that's true the dad has to be there to sign.. you both have to go in.

But if just you go and sign a father can legally apply to get on it later.
That's what I would do tbh. Not take him with you, just sign it yourself and wait for him to apply to get on it of he wants to. I do think men should show commitment and not just be handed the rights on a plate purely because if you know he is not trustworthy and theres a chance he will try and manipulate you and do reckless things out of anger etc then handing over those rights could be a nightmare for you down the line.
Especially if he just disappears. You would still need his permission for things like choosing schools and going abroad. If you have any concern he will either use these rights to get at you or he will potentially dissapear, just dont do it, dont invite him to come and register the birth with you.

sawdustformypony · 13/04/2019 17:42

As freshstart says - if he's not there at the registration, then its out of the question that you be allowed to name him.

BertrandRussell · 13/04/2019 17:42

“I think this way it gets rid of the dead weight time wasters who would only use parental responsibility to abuse and manipulate you.”

I don’t agree. Insisting on being on the birth certificate is just they sort of thing an abusive “I demand my rights” sort of man would do.

BertrandRussell · 13/04/2019 17:40

I haven’t read the thread but because you’re asking the question, the answer must be no. You can always add him later- you can’t take him off once he’s there.

Twisique · 13/04/2019 17:38

I wouldn't add him!

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