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Walkout at US highschool on transgender use of toilets

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Lamaha · 12/04/2019 16:45

www.wowt.com/content/news/Transgender-rights-clash-prompts-walkout-at-CB-Abraham-Lincoln-High-508449271.html?fbclid=IwAR1cxGTsF6XId8oPWoLPR-GAUcHMHdFy4hF8_FvNVW0rtZV4nvpeRFTDezE

The protesting students divided into two groups, one supporting girls and one suporting transgender use of the facilities. The transgender support group was twice as big as the female support group. The school says the law is on the side of the transgenders.
This is disgraceful.

Student Brandi Scherlund said, “I believe if you have the male parts you go to the males’ bathroom and if you have the female parts you go to a ladies room and that's just the way I was raised." She is quite correct.

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NobodysBlackerThanMe · 14/04/2019 08:07

I'm not sure. I'd like to believe the church controlled schools are keeping out of it. Educate Together schools are a bit more suspect. The ones in the firing line are single sex schools now that the law recognises transitioning at 16.

Lamaha · 13/04/2019 17:18

@Nobody that is truly disgusting. I'm concerned because it looks as if my 9 year old granddaughter is going to be moving here in summer. Do you know if the schools have trans info packs like in the UK?

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Lamaha · 13/04/2019 17:16

There have been other walk outs due to transgender use of girls' toilets and found the following:

www.christianexaminer.com/article/100.high.school.students.walk.out.when.transgender.uses.girls.locker.room/49446.htm

The entitlement is mind-boggling: "I didn't want to be in something gender-neutral," Perry told the TV station. "I am a girl. I am not going to be pushed away to another bathroom."

Perry, who wears a wig, also refused to believe the girls are simply uncomfortable.

"I think this is pure and simple bigotry," Perry said

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NobodysBlackerThanMe · 13/04/2019 12:48

spunout.ie/life/article/recommendations-gender-recognition-act

"The report also recommended that a legal process be put in place for cases where there is not consent from both parents or it is not possible or safe to get consent."

Ireland likes to think itself as being ahead of the curve in whatever is trending (smoking ban, plastic bag tax) . I think this is just another example.

DuchessDumbarton · 13/04/2019 11:36

Am I missing something here?
Is it seriously proposed (in Ireland) that children can legally change their gender without any medical assessment or support?

DuchessDumbarton · 13/04/2019 11:35

Found one here.

which seems to say that

Quote-
" The key recommendations of the report are that, in principle;
A: a system of gender recognition be introduced for children subject to the following key principles:

  • parental consent required
  • the process to be administrative,
  • third party support for the child and family involved
  • a straightforward revocation process to be included" End Quote

I think the second point is to exclude a medical assessment- on that page the head of the LGBT charity says that
" Basing legislation on self-determination reflects that this is a legal process and therefore there is no requirement for medical experts, medical treatments or diagnosis of a mental disorder for individuals to be legally recognised."

DuchessDumbarton · 13/04/2019 11:23

Nobody do you have a link for information on that? Seriously concerning.

NobodysBlackerThanMe · 13/04/2019 10:47

You're right about Ireland. We've haven't so much drank the kool-aid as bathed in the bloody stuff. They're seeking to update the gender recognition act so that children can undergo the process without parental consent.

SarahTancredi · 13/04/2019 10:41

Shove their clothes.

Stupid phone

SarahTancredi · 13/04/2019 10:41

Whatever happened to LP? They must be at uni by now I suppose. Or working
I did read on here if I remember correctly and more than happy to be corrected that in fact she was disappointed in the end result as the changing room.was far from what American movies portrayed with girls stood around naked or in underwear chatting and play fighting with towels.

Again I have no idea if it's true but I would like to know how many actually end up in a room.on their own while the girls all just shiver their clothes on over the pe kit or change in the toilet instead.

Lamaha · 13/04/2019 10:36

Oh my goodness me. I noticed that the headmistress was choosing her words very carefully indeed. She didn’t look happy or in agreement with the law at all.

Absolutely! She's basically saying, my hands are tied, it's the law, but they have the right to protest.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/04/2019 10:36

Whatever happened to LP? They must be at uni by now I suppose. Or working.

T1meForDebate · 13/04/2019 10:35

I wonder if some of the girls especially who joined the pro trans group did so because it was larger - and one thing teens can't bear is being out of fashion, unpopular, on the sidelines? Flocking behaviour in teens is very common

Lamaha · 13/04/2019 10:34

I wish we could get a message to them to say how much we support them, that they are right to do this and tell them how brave they are.

That's why I posted their names, in the hope that they google themselves and find this thread. If they do: Waves Hi girls, well done! Flowers

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T1meForDebate · 13/04/2019 10:31

Now those really are stunning and brave girls

Ereshkigal · 13/04/2019 09:45

The story of Lila Perry and the utter and total disrespect and disregard for the feelings of the girls was my peak moment.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3219186/Almost-200-Missouri-students-walk-class-protest-transgender-high-school-senior-allowed-use-girls-bathroom.html

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/04/2019 09:38

I haven’t read around the whole story but - good for those girls standing up for themselves. Women are taught to be nice, don’t make a fuss, let the boy win/have the toy...

Ereshkigal · 13/04/2019 09:38

In this country you cannot transition till 18 not sure about USA

I think you can have "top surgery" at least as a young teenager.

Ereshkigal · 13/04/2019 09:36

The girls' names are Elana Owens and Brandi Scherlund. May they be an inspiration to others. I'm pretty sure there are girls like them in schools all over the US, just too intimidated to speak out. It is indeed daunting but there is strength in numbers and the numbers are surely behind them.

I wish we could get a message to them to say how much we support them, that they are right to do this and tell them how brave they are.

GaraMedouar · 13/04/2019 09:29

Oh my goodness me. I noticed that the headmistress was choosing her words very carefully indeed. She didn’t look happy or in agreement with the law at all.

2BthatUnnoticed · 13/04/2019 09:17

And this is what they are facing...

Walkout at US highschool on transgender use of toilets
Lamaha · 13/04/2019 08:54

The girls' names are Elana Owens and Brandi Scherlund. May they be an inspiration to others. I'm pretty sure there are girls like them in schools all over the US, just too intimidated to speak out. It is indeed daunting but there is strength in numbers and the numbers are surely behind them.

Interesting though to see the larger group of pro-trans people retired to the top of a hill. And boo to the girls who joined them.

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BickerinBrattle · 13/04/2019 03:06

The so-called "left" in the US, in support of genderism, is now arguing in the courts that teenage girls have no right of bodily privacy.

They are SO being played. In Griswold v, Connecticut the Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution included a "penumbral" unwritten right to bodily privacy and therefore the stse of Connecticut couldn't intervene in a woman's decision to use birth control. The Court then extended the Griswold decision in writing the Roe decision that gave women the right to abortion.

In arguing, for the sake of trans rights, that this right to bodily privacy doesn't exist, the stupid and misogynist so-called left is doing the work of the Christian right. Undo the legal principle on which Griswold and Roe were based, and American women will no longer be able to control their fertility and therefore will no longer be free in any meaningful sense of the word.

littlbrowndog · 12/04/2019 23:13

They are not a transition student. They are just either at it or confused teens

In this country you cannot transition till 18 not sure about USA

MoltenLasagne · 12/04/2019 23:10

The walkout was triggered by a female student who believes her privacy is being invaded by a student who recently began to identify as a girl.

This to me sounds as though the female student is being personally harassed and the transitioning student is doing so to intentionally invade her privacy.

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