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Feminist Current: I supported Trans ideology until I couldn't any more

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 11/04/2019 09:52

Really interesting article about by a woman who changed her mind on trans issues this year

www.feministcurrent.com/2019/04/10/i-supported-trans-ideology-until-i-couldnt-anymore/

I thought this was interesting

Now, when I reflect on my “switch” from being an unrelenting trans activist/“ally” to being critical of gender identity ideology and legislation, I’m chilled at how easy it was for me — a psychologist (now retired), ostensibly trained to understand the human mind — to become so caught up in the momentum of “trans rights” that I avoided critical thought, much like a new member of a cult

Should referring to a self-identified transwoman as “he,” even inadvertently, mean that women deserve to have online methods of communication (a vital tool for women, enabling them to participate in both public and private conversations) cut off?

Also, one of the key things that got her rethinking her stance was talking with Morgane Oger - who'd have thought it eh?

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Lamaha · 11/04/2019 12:15

It IS a cult. I've known people in (religious) cults. The inability to see clearly, to criticise what is right before your eyes, is exactly the same.
But the fact that she finally opened her eyes gives hope.

littlbrowndog · 11/04/2019 12:10

Yeps. She didn’t believe what women were sayin.

Quote below

If all else failed, I’d mention my PhD. Then, I would end the conversation, as I did not believe I needed to reflect upon this further. After all, I had federal law backing me. Clearly I was on the right side of history. And so, instead of listening, I kept climbing my personal peak, feeling more righteous the higher I went.

Shutting women up with her education qualifications

Well at least she has written it all out and has changed her views but still can’t believe that anyone despite how educated they are could believe the whole thing
Just weird

Datun · 11/04/2019 11:56

For me, what's slightly worrying is that the trigger was the ball waxer. The trigger was someone taking advantage of the ideology. Not the ideology itself.

Any grown-up would, surely, have already understood that advantage can be taken. It shouldn't have been a slow realisation.

Nonetheless, it's good that she's got the guts to set it all out, analyse it and publicise it.

NotTerfNorCis · 11/04/2019 11:26

The most convincing thing trans ideologues have is the existence of apparently 'trans' kids. I have to admit that gave me pause. I would never have accepted they were the opposite sex but as a mental condition it looked real.

Barracker · 11/04/2019 11:06

I just did a cheeky back search, and sure enough, I argued with her back in 2018 when she was entrenched in TRA stuff!

Wow.

OldCrone · 11/04/2019 11:02

Like littlbrowndog, I don't understand why otherwise intelligent people have been sucked into this cult. I suppose some of them start off by thinking that maybe they don't understand the issue well enough, and it doesn't affect them anyway and they don't have time to research it.

I struggle to see how parents, teachers and medical professionals can be on board with it, though. It should be really obvious how harmful it is to children, by reinforcing gender stereotypes and medicating and mutilating them.

Ereshkigal · 11/04/2019 10:58

I knew her on Twitter when she was completely mired in the ideology. This was early 2017. I'm astounded, though very pleased that she's done a complete 180.

Catinaflap · 11/04/2019 10:53

I just saw this on Twitter & came here to start a thread on it, but see it's already been done!

And I get what you're saying littlebrowndog but I think the conditioning has been SO strong on this issue that all kinds of otherwise really intelligent people have been sucked in - one woman I know, a midwife no less, is a loud & proud TRA ideologist, despite the evidence of her own eyes that it's only people with a particular body type (ie biologically female) she supports delivering babies day after day after day... I can't begin to comprehend the cognitive gymnastics it must take to maintain that degree of dissonance, but there's still, unfortunately, far too many people like that out there!

GirlDownUnder · 11/04/2019 10:52

It's scary how some people get sucked in, but I guess that's why cults work.

I've never been on the TRA side, but I was first introduced to the ideology through FWR, and then went to learn, so maybe your stance depends on your entry point?

vicviking · 11/04/2019 10:49

I think this is an important article that should be widely circulated. So many educated people who want to be inclusive and helpful have been caught up in this. Her story would resonate.

Barracker · 11/04/2019 10:42

Really interesting article!

I went to Twitter after reading it to follow her but it turns out we follow each other already 😄

littlbrowndog · 11/04/2019 10:12

How strange that’s she believed this stuff

Jeez was just like her brain didn5 work

And she worked in anorexia field

And she took to twitter to have conversations

Jeez

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