Owen Jones

Yes. I'm pretty alarmed at the tendence among left wingers to accept milkshake-throwing

In britain now:

Right wing fascists have assassinated one of our few and precious woman MPs.
Right wing fascists are threatening to kill any number of sitting MPs; mainly women.
Right wing fascists regularly attack women, anti racism campaigners and pro EU campaigners in central London.
Right wing fascists have just attacked another journalist.

But........... the milkshakes.

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Wotcha bowl! Missed you. .

They are warmongers, we are peaceniks, so how could we be violent.

Yep, I think that's it. Self-righteous blindspot. And I think it's fuelling the far right, amongst other things.

I'm glad Jones is fine, Frangipani. Attacks like this are worrying sign of the current climate.

Totally agree about throwing anything at political opponents- eggs, milkshakes, paint- it’s a form of attack and should not be accepted let alone celebrated. And public attacks on journalists are particularly sinister.

He's fine.

He was on Sunday Morning Live today talking about the recently banned Philadelphia and VW adverts and the effect that gender stereotyping has on "the poor menz"

I'm pretty alarmed at the tendence among left wingers to accept milkshake-throwing, even celebrate it - it's one step away from punching.

It's that self-satisfied sense of having the moral high-ground that seems to allow it to seem ok. Any knowledge of the history of the left should make it clear this can be a blindspot. I guess many of us just forgot about this tendency, we projected too much onto the right as something that exclusively belongs to them. They are warmongers, we are peaceniks, so how could we be violent.

Absolutely loathe the man, but you can’t go beating people up. Hope he isn’t injured.

London is bristling with cameras, I’m sure they will have got some footage.

I agree with all the voices condemning violence and sending good wishes to OJ here.

I am struck by the stark contrast between the comments here and the way Owen Jones has commented on violence against women who disagree with his views on their rights.

Yes. I'm pretty alarmed at the tendence among left wingers to accept milkshake-throwing, even celebrate it - it's one step away from punching. People I know well, who ought to know better, are crossing the line into advocating violence and it terrifies me.

I totally agree Scrimshaw and have had the same experience of otherwise good people I know laughing at the milkshake thing and shrugging their shoulders about it. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like milkshake to be thrown on them. It's an aggressive act however silly it seems because it's milkshake. I think once we get into physical assaults being condoned against people we disagree with we are in dangerous territory as a society and have regressed.

All violence, against anyone, is always bad.

Yes. I'm pretty alarmed at the tendence among left wingers to accept milkshake-throwing, even celebrate it - it's one step away from punching. People I know well, who ought to know better, are crossing the line into advocating violence and it terrifies me.

I condemn all violence and him being beaten up is completely unacceptable.

What concerns me, however, is how the hard left condone violence from antifa because they seem to see that violence a 'righteous violence.'

That makes no sense to me. All violence, against anyone, is always bad.

Much as i dislike OJ i wish him a speedy recovery. Such a horrible experience of male violence, I wouldnt wish that on anyone.

So he was able to tell they were men without asking what they identified as, was he?

It's amazing how "you can't tell someone's gender by looking at them" evaporates when men decide it's an inconvenient assertion for them.

I think we should condemn violence unequivocally. I'm horrified at this attack on Owen Jones. We can't know for certain, but I think he's probably right that this was a premeditated attack by a right wing group. He has long been targeted by far right bullies.

It would also be wonderful to see people condemn, for example, the attacks on Maria MacLachlan, Helen Steel and Julie Bindel. There were some people who tried to claim that Maria provoked the attackers. OJ was one of them. I hope all of us can rise above that kind of victim-blaming.

I hope he is ok. It must have been very frightening.

Corbyn confirming what a prat Corbyn is

Jeremy Corbyn

@jeremycorbyn

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I send my solidarity to Owen Jones and his friends who were attacked last night

Dianne Abbott also pulled the "solidarity" line. Normal people would express sympathy and ask if he is ok.

I agree politics and snark should be put aside. It was an appalling and frightening attack and I hope they catch the perpetrators.

How does he know this was a 'far right' attack though? He has said they didn't speak, or at least he didn't hear them say anything if they did.

He's wasted no time in using the incident to his advantage has he.

That must have been so frightening. I hope he'll recover quickly from the beating and the mental injuries such an attack causes.

A friend's DH is still dealing with the injuries he sustained in a similar attack last year. It's been tough on the whole family and just makes me think how lucky Owen Jones was to walk away from that without needing hospital treatment.

It's still truly shocking to me how willing some men are to hurt another human being. For opinions.

From the Guardian link:
“We were about 30 metres away, saying goodbye to each other, when four men charged directly towards me..."

So he was able to tell they were men without asking what they identified as, was he? Bigoted assumption on his part.

I don't want anyone to be beaten up, but he has been condoning, justifying, minimising and near-revelling in violence against women for so long I can't say I have unlimited sympathy for this particular person. If that makes me a horrible person, so be it.

He won't want my good wishes but he has them in spades.

Possibly, but I’d like to think we’re still in a place where we can set differences of opinion aside, and offer and accept sincere best wishes and solidarity when something horrifying like this happens. It’s really important.

Best wishes, Owen

Appalling. I hope the cctv evidence is there, and those thugs get everything they deserve.

Can't help but contrast the above messages of condemnation of this vile attack by males against Mr Jones with Jess Bradley's (and other trans privilege activists) messages of approval of the attack by males against Maria (Skepticat). It's almost as though radical feminists recognise male violence as always a bad thing, even when it's directed against people we disagree with and who seek to remove our rights.

I hand on heart hope that Mr Jones makes a full recovery from his injuries and that his assailants are brought to justice. Physical attacks are never OK.

Male violence again

I am extremely sorry to see any victim of male violence. Awful.

What an awful experience! I hope they find the group. He must be pretty shaken up. Best wishes to him.