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Times article - calls to end transgender 'experiment' on children

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EweSurname · 07/04/2019 22:56

Looks like it's dropped!

Times article - calls to end transgender 'experiment' on children
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Redshoeblueshoe · 08/04/2019 00:52

Being discussed now on Sky News

NowtSalamander · 08/04/2019 00:51

I’m actually having a little weep of joy here. This is amazing. Just in time for me to see my MP tomorrow morning Grin

R0wantrees · 08/04/2019 00:51

It also mentions over simplification of issues on CBBC

"I am Leo" was a significant CBBC program from 2014 which featured Stephen Whittle (founder Press For Change & Government expert advisor for Maria Miller MPs Trans Inquiry) as a 'superhero'
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x_u2cs8DpI

there has been an update

AlunWynsKnee · 08/04/2019 00:51

Thanks Giant for the shares.

RedToothBrush · 08/04/2019 00:50

Many thanks giant kitten. I think I may make effort to buy the paper today.

RedToothBrush · 08/04/2019 00:49

Kids coming into clinic enthusing over trans teen they'd seen on cbbc which had oversimplified things.

RedToothBrush · 08/04/2019 00:46

It carries on and says

Gires, GI and Mermaids all denied they viewed transition as a cure-all or that they exerted any undue pressure.

Really important phrase that one. Glad the Times have it there explicitly.

It's bollocks.

Especially when you have the people resigning saying how they could tell letters from Mermaids as they were all the same. Or they had people sit outside waiting whilst the clinic saw patients.

Cracking article

Redshoeblueshoe · 08/04/2019 00:45

Bloody hell Red can you expand on the cbbc

AlunWynsKnee · 08/04/2019 00:44

Because if they are to truly acknowledge [our concerns], then they will have to ask themselves, what the f* have we done to thousands of children?”

RedToothBrush · 08/04/2019 00:41

The conversion therapy one is very good

So many potentially gay children were being sent down the pathway to change gender, two of the clinicians said there was a dark joke among staff that “there would be no gay people left”.

“It feels like conversion therapy for gay children,” one male clinician said. “I frequently had cases where people started identifying as trans after months of horrendous bullying for being gay,” he told The Times.

“Young lesbians considered at the bottom of the heap suddenly found they were really popular when they said they were trans.”

It also mentions over simplification of issues on CBBC.

Redshoeblueshoe · 08/04/2019 00:37

This is just about to be discussed on Sky News now

RedToothBrush · 08/04/2019 00:36

This advert is a wall of establishment and business who are not going to be happy tomorrow.

Times article - calls to end transgender 'experiment' on children
GeordieGenes · 08/04/2019 00:35

I wonder if all these journalists will be getting a knock on the door from their local police force? If not, why not?

AlunWynsKnee · 08/04/2019 00:34

Given paucity of evidence, the off-label use of drugs [for outcomes not covered by the medicine’s licence] in gender dysphoria treatment largely means an unregulated live experiment on children
Yes indeed

RedToothBrush · 08/04/2019 00:32

Also I think this article is relevant to a lot of this debate. It refers to the supreme Court judgement earlier this week on the case of the woman and her ex husband who took her to court for defamation

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/register/analysing-if-statements-made-on-social-media-are-defamatory-wsvl2smk8
LAW REPORT
Analysing if statements made on social media are defamatory

It's NOT trans related but certainly related to the debates that are ongoing around all these things and how the police have been involved in talking to gender critical people for defamation or hate crime.

EweSurname · 08/04/2019 00:30

Archived in case it's pulled/amended

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S1naidSucks · 08/04/2019 00:29

That’s a very factual and straight to the point article.

S1naidSucks · 08/04/2019 00:25

Thank you, GiantKitten.

S1naidSucks · 08/04/2019 00:23

Can I just say thank you to the editor and reporters of The Times, for not permitting certain organisations to bully you into submission. When this nonsense is finally over or the SHTF, you will be remembered as one of the leading voices that tried to warn the public and protect our children. 💐

whomovedmyprosecco · 08/04/2019 00:22

That's me subscribed to the Times.

RedToothBrush · 08/04/2019 00:18

And part four

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/doubts-over-evidence-for-using-drugs-on-the-young-2vk26hrvx
COMMENT | TIMES INVESTIGATION
Doubts over evidence for using drugs on the young
professor carl heneghan

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