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David Babbs sacked

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Floomph · 05/04/2019 13:40

The founder of campaigning group 38 degrees, David Babbs, has been sacked because of giving ketamine and cocaine to younger staff. What jumped out at me when I read this story was the line, 'Separately the board has commissioned an independent external investigation into a number of other allegations which have been made relating to David's conduct.' (this was in the Mail article, but I'm linking to one in the Telegraph)

Whilst it's probably not right to speculate about what other allegations have been made in this instance, this story has made me think again about Brendan Cox and the issues with sexual assault in the charity sector. I am acquainted with another man who founded a small charity (also near Hackney, funnily enough) who I know has given drugs to his young staff at parties and who doesn't sexually assault them but is highly coercive and manipulative about having sexual contact with some of them. I was a victim of his in a sense but told him to fuck off when he tried it on with me repeatedly, not being as young and vulnerable as some of the other people he works with. I'm just feeling like the whole sector is rotten right now. I can't think how I trust which charities are staffed by decent people. I am wondering generally how much charities attract narcissists or are founded by narcissist because these men end up having an endless supply of young attractive volunteers and interns who are desperate to get work or experience and who look up to these men given they think they're saving the world.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/04/founder-campaign-group-38-degrees-sacked-giving-drugs-younger/

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RepealTheGRA · 05/04/2019 14:38

I’ve found it now. It was ‘No to the erasure of women and abolition of our spaces’ in July 2017. It wasn’t Mumsnet who radicalised me, it was those fuckers. I’ve been raging ever since.

Flowers to all women who’ve ever encountered Babbs.

Thanks to the times for covering. My subscription is the best money I’ve ever spent.

MoltenLasagne · 05/04/2019 14:35

Honestly the only charities that I trust to donate to now are small women focused and women run charities.

There does seem to be a pattern of men who see themselves as virtuous due to working with vulnerable people therefore absolving themselves of truly awful behaviour.

RepealTheGRA · 05/04/2019 14:34

I think it was one even prior to that DpWm.

I wrote to them and told them to fuck off and never contact me again. They haven’t.

I feel emotionally abused by 38degrees. Where do I complain Angry

FermatsTheorem · 05/04/2019 14:29

The Times has the story too, with similar quotes. I immediately thought of them taking down the GC petition.

Popchyk · 05/04/2019 14:14

Reminds me of the Radio 1 DJs in the 70s.

Men in positions of authority surrounded by lots of young women to exploit.

Untouchable because "they do such good charitable work, you know"? And nobody to hold them to account.

Daily Mail linkl

"It is understood that further complaints have been made about Mr Babbs' alleged 'emotional abuse' of staff, particularly young women.

One source claimed: 'He would make people feel uncomfortable, and he would talk down to females. There were often people crying in the toilets after he'd finished with them.'

Another person described Mr Babbs as a 'merciless bully'.

Germ1360 · 05/04/2019 14:04

Doesn't surprise me at all. Husband emailed them re. getting rid/refusing to host/support any vaguely GC petitions, asking for an explanation; no reply. Because they don't really care about women and don't feel any need to justify their actions. Because they must be right, obviously.

DpWm · 05/04/2019 14:00

Yes I remember 38 degrees refused to host Amy Desir (Man Friday) petition titled
"The government should consult with women about changes to the GRA"

Misogyny is rife at 38D.

RepealTheGRA · 05/04/2019 13:49

Good.

Didn’t 38 degrees remove one of the original petitions in 2017 when it had barely got started?

Bunch of misogynists Angry

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