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Paris transgender woman 'humiliated' at protest.

45 replies

placemats · 04/04/2019 15:31

In other words men, yes men, beat up a person (seems like actual bodily harm to me) who presents as a transgender woman in Paris.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47799288

Get it right BBC!

And the only person who steps in to help?

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Hulo · 04/04/2019 16:33

Interesting. She was obviously provoked and harassed in a totally unacceptable manner but she responded in a very male way, using her body and physicality.

I mean, I don't blame her, she was protecting herself, but still interesting to note. Horrible incident. And, as usual, it's men who are the ones carrying out the actual literal violence

ILoveMaxiBondi · 04/04/2019 16:31

It’s male ego and arrogance in action.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 04/04/2019 16:29

Yes catalogue! The TW flicks their arm to get the woman helping them off and charges up the steps and squares up to the man who then punches them several times.

CatalogueUniverse · 04/04/2019 16:27

Is that, the transgender woman going after the person and then it turns into a fight?

It’s quite interesting because woman are socialised into placating harassing men or leaving - because of the danger of what happens when you antagonise them.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 04/04/2019 16:20

Erm has anyone watched the video?

placemats · 04/04/2019 16:15

Good point misscockerspaniel

It also highlights that male violence is once again minimised.

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Estcarpwitch · 04/04/2019 16:15

And the answer Miss is of course No.

misscockerspaniel · 04/04/2019 16:10

No doubt the incident was "humiliating" and obviously, it was bang out of order but lets be honest here, would the BBC have reported a random female being beaten up and/or humiliated in France?

EweSurname · 04/04/2019 15:52

The word "humiliation" (or humiliate, humiliating, humilated etc) doesn't appear anywhere in the article apart from the title.

This however is one quote from the victim:

"The violence against this [transgender] community takes place every day. But some people won't have the strength that I have and they'll be destroyed by these attacks," she said.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 04/04/2019 15:52

Or alternatively it could be what we endlessly point out: that the press minimise and disguise wholly unacceptable male violence by using word choices just like this. See how the wording puts the blame on the victim - they were 'humiliated' which is a subjective experience with passive wording, and the perpetrators and actions aren't even mentioned. 'Men attack transwoman' is active and names the perpetrators and the actions.

The facts are that men violently attacked a TW for looking different in a public place. Absolutely unacceptable, that poor TW.

placemats · 04/04/2019 15:50

You presume, not assume.

The quote could have come from anyone.

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CallMeWoman · 04/04/2019 15:49

It's a horrendous example of transphobic male violence. Shouldn't have happened.

BollocksToBrexit · 04/04/2019 15:46

But the 'humiliation' is a quote, so I assume that came from the victim. Maybe that's the worst aspect of the attack from the victim's perspective, the humiliation of being targeted like that.

placemats · 04/04/2019 15:43

I d'on't have to be 'angry' to post here. Do I?

What I'm saying is this attack on this person was appalling. The attack was made by men. The BBC describe it as humiliation as per my post heading.

Transgender woman beaten up by men at protest in Paris.

Is a more accurate description.

(and yes, woman steps in to help)

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EweSurname · 04/04/2019 15:42

The headline depicts the beating up as "humiliation", which is minimising the male violence perpetrated on the transwoman.

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 04/04/2019 15:42

The article says that men attacked a transgender woman in Paris and a woman stepped in to help. What did they get wrong?
The headline is misleading - she was physically attacked and beaten, not just 'humiliated'.

BollocksToBrexit · 04/04/2019 15:38

I don't get it. What are you angry about?

The article says that men attacked a transgender woman in Paris and a woman stepped in to help. What did they get wrong?

littlbrowndog · 04/04/2019 15:37

Horrible attack on that person. Really horrible and that brave woman who tried to help

Men beating someone because they are different

placemats · 04/04/2019 15:35

What's new is that 'ugly male violence' is being trotted out now as 'humiliation'.

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multivac · 04/04/2019 15:33

Ugly, male violence. What's new?

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