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Why are women shamed for taking the morning after pill?

58 replies

Sophestry · 03/04/2019 15:07

I guess there is an underlying assumption that, if you're taking emergency contraception, you didn't use contraception, but in reality no contraceptive is 100% effective and, if you don't want another child, it is often the right choice for you at the time.

Young mothers, married ladies, people in long term relationships and pretty much anyone with a uterus who has sex may seek emergency contraception at some time in their life. Some experiences are really straight forward and easy but, especially outside of the cities, it can be really horrible.

This has turned into a bit of a rant, but I'm curious to find out what your thoughts are RE morning after pill shaming and if you think there is still a stigma attached to emergency contraception.

Inspired by this: www.mymorningafter.co.uk/mymorningafterstories

OP posts:
formerbabe · 04/04/2019 14:55

if you accept that risk, and have sex anyway, who is to blame if you get pregnant

No one is to blame. Why do you feel the need to blame someone?

formerbabe · 04/04/2019 14:54

Same sex couples can't reproduce. Did anybody ever explain human reproduction to you? Obviously I am referring to male/female interaction

You said

If you have sex, you're planning to get pregnant

So same sex couples, post menopausal women and infertile people have different motivations for having sex than straight, fertile couples...is that what you're saying?

confusedfornow · 04/04/2019 13:53

Formerbabe

Same sex couples can't reproduce. Did anybody ever explain human reproduction to you? Obviously I am referring to male/female interaction.

Jessica

You clearly missed my point entirely. If you know that contraception can fail, you are aware of the risk of pregnancy, if you accept that risk, and have sex anyway, who is to blame if you get pregnant?

The MAP is just a panicked reaction to poor decision making.

litereally · 04/04/2019 10:39

Yeah the one time I've taken MAP was when I got stealthed (he took off the condom) and the pharmacist was a complete asshole about it.
A few years later, was on holiday in Australia and helped my friend go for it and a pharmacist refused "on religious grounds". We found a place a few streets over to get it because we were in Melbourne, but in a small town with only one chemist, how is that supposed to work?

formerbabe · 04/04/2019 10:27

If you have sex, you're planning to get pregnant

What about same sex couples? Post menopausal women and infertile people?

FromDespairToHere · 04/04/2019 10:18

Oh confused you'd be hilarious if you weren't so fucking terrifying. Why do some women hate women so much?

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 04/04/2019 10:11

Confusedfornow by it's very nature the MAP is taking responsibility. Your username seems very appropriate.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 04/04/2019 10:10

If you have sex, you're planning to get pregnant.

😂 that’s so silly.

But actually, also deeply unkind. Rape. Failed contraception. Enjoyment. I mean seriously, this is the feminism boards

formerbabe · 04/04/2019 10:05

If you have sex, you're planning to get pregnant

Confused. Critical thinking not one of your strong points I take it?

trendingorange · 04/04/2019 09:00

I've only taken it once, I refused to feel shame but I made my respectable looking boyfriend go with me I'm not sure what we can do about people judging women for taking the pill, I'm sure these are the same people who would judge you if you had hundreds of kids so what can you do?

confusedfornow · 04/04/2019 08:20

XXc

If you have sex, you're planning to get pregnant. There is no such thing as an unplanned pregnancy, of you have sex and you get pregnant, you planned it.

In real life, as opposed to the happy clappy rainbow world of make believe you see fit to fly through on your winged unicorn of delusion, actions have consequences.

XXcstatic · 04/04/2019 00:38

You cannot get pregnant accidentially. You have to have sex first, and you can't do that by accident

1/3 of pregnancies are unplanned. There's an awful lot of 'irresponsibility' out there but, mysteriously, we mainly choose to shame single women for it.

FranklinTheCat · 03/04/2019 23:05

@confusedfornow, in relation to this statement:

You cannot get pregnant accidentially. You have to have sex first, and you can't do that by accident.

What a wonderfully simple world you live in. Have you heard of something called rape? It doesn't happen "by accident" but it is entirely possible for a woman who did not intend to have sex, and who did not consent to sex, to have sex and become pregnant as a result.

formerbabe · 03/04/2019 22:34

If you're not mature enough to take on the responsibility of raising a child, then you're not mature enough to be having sex in the first place

Oh ffs.

Lymphy · 03/04/2019 22:30

It’s free from contraception services, GP’s and some pharmacists. Others charge, on a weekend if it’s needed and no service is available 111 will issue an appointment for issue ( or they should)
There are a few questions yes, it’s just to work out your cycle length and ovulation date to ensure the right emergency contraception is issued. But yes they are quite personal in nature but they are clinically relevant

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 03/04/2019 22:28

To answer your question, yes I think there is a stigma ( as we see on this thread! ) and it is completely unreasonable and unfair for women. We really can’t win whatever we do.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 03/04/2019 22:24

I didn’t read the link cos I’m knackered and need to get to bed but your op struck a chord because I’ve got the map twice in the last ten years and felt like the process was shit tbh. In my case I ordered and paid online from Lloyd’s both times and felt like it was too many questions and too bloody invasive and awkward. Both times were from a Friday night onwards so seeing a gp wasn’t an option, luckily I can afford to pay. I don’t even know what the process is otherwise, is it free? Is it from a gp? A pharmacist? I’m a 47 year old happily married woman who can’t take the pill anymore and who doesn’t want to use barrier methods with her husband. I/we have done nothing wrong, morally or legally, so why can’t I buy this off the shelf? Yes, I felt like there were hoops to jump through. Yes, I thought others might have given up in the face of them. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

FermatsTheorem · 03/04/2019 22:13

Yes, the MAP is only effective if taken before fertilisation. Contrary to the propaganda put out by the religious right, it suppresses ovulation rather than preventing implantation, so if you've already ovulated, you may well get pregnant. If you think you have already ovulated, you should get a coil fitted (that will prevent implantation, IIRC).

LittleChristmasMouse · 03/04/2019 22:10

What concerns me more is women not being told that this only works at certain points in the cycle. I think many women think that it's not a big issue if they don't use contraception because they can just take the MAP but it won't necessarily be effective.

FermatsTheorem · 03/04/2019 22:07

confused did you mean to be such a raging misogynist? You honestly think men don't bear the same level of responsibility for pregnancy as women? What planet are you on? Do you know nothing about human reproduction?

Babies don't magically appear through a process of parthenogenesis you know.

AssassinatedBeauty · 03/04/2019 22:06

Why on earth not? They need to be responsible for where they carelessly leave their sperm, and for not taking any precautions to ensure that sperm doesn't cause a pregnancy.

confusedfornow · 03/04/2019 22:02

Assassinated

Men can't get pregnant, so they don't have to take the same level of responsibility as the woman does.

Paddy1234 · 03/04/2019 21:21

Have taken it a few times - my lovely near retirement gentleman doctor has always been fantastic and just congratulated me on being responsible to be honest.

AssassinatedBeauty · 03/04/2019 21:15

"It's called "responsability"."

Oh my goodness. It's literally not. You mean "responsibility", to begin with.

And women who take the MAP are exactly being responsible. The MAP is not an abortion. And if you think that a woman is always responsible for having sex, then you must think that rape is not a possibility.

It's not about morality. It's about leaping at the chance to berate women for their supposed failings. It is simple misogyny. Men are never told to be responsible or to refrain from sex, ever.

FermatsTheorem · 03/04/2019 21:12

Well for starters I think it's called "responsibility". And that's exactly what women choosing to use the MAP are exercising when they realise their existing contraception has failed and want a back up. And what they're using if that fails, they find they're pregnant and don't feel it's an appropriate time in their lives to choose to become a mother, so have an abortion.

Lots of adult decision making and taking responsibility for ensuring that the actions they take lead to the consequences they deem to be right for their lives.

Taking responsibility for one's actions and taking steps to avoid detrimental consequences is a good thing, not a thing to shame people for.