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what do you think of Cardi B?

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traceyracer · 01/04/2019 13:53

she has openly admitted to drugging and robbing men. is this a good example? I mean there will be a lot of young girls who will see her as a role model

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Oldermum156 · 04/04/2019 20:17

For a slightly more serious reply - I think it's kind of terrible in general that people are looking to shallow, insipid celebrities to be their moral or political compass. I see major news outlets reporting that so-n-so rock or movie star has said such and so about this law or politician, and I think to myself, "but who cares?"
Young people, I guess. It's a blatant attempt to get young people to care and vote.

PeoplesFrontOfJudith · 04/04/2019 08:00

If we’re looking for a feminist angle on this I have seen someone talking about how male rappers can murder, sexually assault, sell drugs and just commit many acts violence and still be acceptable and even just part of their image. If a woman does it she’s ‘disgusting’ and ‘evil’. (This is mainly directed at those who are actually fans of the music of course)
Also the left and liberal feminism is all about how wonderful and empowering “sex work” is but when presented with the grubby reality of what goes on in the “industry” suddenly it’s unpalatable
I don’t like her music tbh and wouldn’t offer her up as someone to listen to for my daughter. I just find it eye rolling that once again we are being presented with another female figure to hate one while the male artists get shrugged away

BobTheDuvet · 04/04/2019 06:53

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WombOfOnesOwn · 04/04/2019 00:24

I don't think of her often, I'm a bit too old for her music, I think.

But I heartily approve of robbing johns.

Good example. I hope if your daughter is ever forced to sell her body to survive, she, too, has the independent spirit and sense of justice to rob her would-be rapists blind.

Oldermum156 · 04/04/2019 00:17

I don't think of her often, lol

traceyracer · 03/04/2019 23:08

"They've even invented special nail polish for women, so women can dip a finger in the drink a man bought for them, to tell if they're about to be drugged and raped.
That's how common it is."

I don't think that nail polish is proof of how common this is, it could be whoever invented it wanted to make money out of knowing that this is a topic often discussed.

Personally I think the nail polish is just another thing that could be used for victim-blaming. If a woman falls victim to rape because of a spiked drink, are people going to say "oh well she should have used that nail polish to test the drink"?

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Socrates11 · 03/04/2019 21:31

@StopThePlanet

Yes Azealia has got attitude in spades but I love that song.

Amos and Harvey are excellent musicians.

Personally I like to channel a mix of Janis Joplin, Grace Jones, Skin and Sinnead O Conner for female warrior mode ( - along with 70s-80s-90s rock)

Wallis Bird is particularly excellent too.

AverageMan · 03/04/2019 20:31

She's a flash in the pan scumbag. No way I'd let my daughter listen to the likes of her when she's older.

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StopThePlanet · 03/04/2019 19:19

Wasn't trying to threadjack but I think I began to...

Drugging someone without their knowledge (outside of necessary medical situations) no matter what intent is wrong and should be prosecuted.

Sinead100 · 03/04/2019 19:18

I didn’t know that she drugged and robbed men but it cements my opinion of her that she is absolutely vile.

StopThePlanet · 03/04/2019 19:16

@Socrates11

She makes my ears cry.

Mine too but I do take guilty pleasure from her song "Bodak Yellow". When I listen to it every time she says bitch I imagine bitch as patriarchy/misogynists.

Give me Azaelia Banks any day...212 is mega.

Agreed. However, she too refers (less so) to certain things like Cardi B that don't work within my feminist perspective.

PJ Harvey, Hole, Tori Amos... and more helped me to see myself as a powerful young woman - I don't see the same quality of female empowerment via music anymore.

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/04/2019 18:19

Feminism isn't about equality. It's about liberating women. Just saying.

This.

One woman robbing men is a crime, a bad thing, and obviously not a good example. Hmm

It's not the systemic oppression of one sex by the other. So it's not a feminist issue as far as I can tell.

Scatobrain · 03/04/2019 18:11

It’s a good example of a bad thing.

CarpeVitam · 03/04/2019 18:04

When I saw the title I thought it was a thread about cardigans! Grin

Awadebumbo · 03/04/2019 18:00

The story I heard was her then boyfriend pimped her out to these men who she would then drug and rob not sexually assault do I approve of the crime no, do I feel sorry for the men that paid another man cash to rape got robbed again no.

Socrates11 · 03/04/2019 08:39

She makes my ears cry.

Give me Azaelia Banks any day...212 is mega.

Bezalelle · 03/04/2019 08:22

Feminism isn't about equality. It's about liberating women. Just saying.

feelingverylazytoday · 02/04/2019 18:21

To be honest, I don't really see this a male vs female situation, more an example of disgusting materialistic culture where people think they are entitled to do whatever they want to get what they want.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 02/04/2019 18:12

this is actually a great example of what total bollocks all the 'feminism is about equality' shit is

so men should get drugged and assaulted at same rate as women? it would be equality after all.....

DpWm · 02/04/2019 18:11

Obviously this person who robbed men should be condemned for her actions.

DpWm · 02/04/2019 18:08

They've even invented special nail polish for women, so women can dip a finger in the drink a man bought for them, to tell if they're about to be drugged and raped.
That's how common it is.

Doesn't mean women should do it too obviously.

OTOH if we feminists really want equality we should want women to drug men as frequently as they drug us because equality is what we want right? Big sista hi five.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 02/04/2019 18:04

she has openly admitted to drugging and robbing men. is this a good example?

Obviously not

What on earth are you expecting people to say?

feelingverylazytoday · 02/04/2019 18:02

That's how some people survived
Apparently not Cardi B though. Apparently she was a very popular and high earning adult performer, and made more than enough to survive just by dancing. Drugging people is assault, and crosses a line. She's lucky no one died and she never ended up on a murder charge.

AssassinatedBeauty · 02/04/2019 17:56

Men get away with it, in large numbers.