Makes me think of foot binding.

I’ve seen students physically hurt themselves by inaccurate breast binding because no one talks about this stuff and they hate their own bodies. Do they need counselling? Most definitely. Do they need to be judged and told they are just confirming to a set of cultural stereotypes? Fuck no. That is harmful and degrading.

I know other people have addressed this poster but I had to delurk to register my horror. First of all, as far as I know, there is no way of accurately binding the breasts and not doing damage. I'm sure there is a way of doing it which is particularly harmful but binding is dangerous full stop. The fact a teacher doesn't understand this is dreadful. It's like a teacher turning a blind eye knowing a student is going to be subjected to FGM on the basis they think the most basic forms of it are neutral (bearing in mind there are different degrees of being cut). It is not your job to normalise these practises. You should be speaking out against them.

Secondly, is ANYONE here judging children or teenagers who are stating they're unhappy with their sex? It's ridiculous to come on a feminist forum and indirectly accuse people of that. We are all here in part because we're concerned about these young people and the impact trans ideology is having on them. They are vulnerable and they are the victims of this movement.

Thirdly I also wish that a teacher who claims they have seen lots of kids with gender issues could understand that it's likely a very high percentage of them either have experience of sexual assault or something like autism. If you fail to understand that you will be failing to get them nudged in the direction of appropriate support.

This thread has really depressed me.

nodebate alive and well

Shadow banning sounds like a perfect tool for underhand filtering to me

Got it in one.

I've deliberately never posted, followed anyone or adjusted settings on Twitter simply so that I can't be blocked from seeing things - I like the whole story. If there are filters like poor quality I wouldn't know how to change them. Can anyone help? I've noticed in the past threads quoted here as being critical of a woke post read to me as being supportive so that may explain it.

Shadow banning sounds like a perfect tool for underhand filtering to me?

I can still see all the critical responses.

It could be that they're shadow banned maybe? If you have your filters set to filter out "poor quality" content or something like that, then you can't see the shadow banned tweeters I think? (I'm a bit hazy on this but I think that's how it works! Does anyone else know?)

Filtered by whom? Twitter?

When I first read the twitter it was absolutely full of negative responses. They've all gone. Definitely been filtered.

Is it just me or has that Twitter thread been filtered? Lots of strongly supportive responses referencing more negative ones but no sign of those critical responses?

LCBC and LTBT are not the same people.

Indeed, LCBC were scathing a few weeks ago, when criticised for retweeting TERFs or some such. They may not see it as their place to comment on Trans issues, but they are clearly GC and pro women in general.

Frankly I'm confused how LTBT can be GC about toys and genderist about 'identity' or whatever their actual position is.

LCBC and LTBT are not the same people. They're allies but different campaigns AFAIK.

No, they've gone a bit quiet (though LCBC has been tweeting and posting in their usual all-children-can-wear-anything way).
I don't know if the same teenage interns do both feeds but it looks like the LTBT person who did the original one was told not to do it again, but they haven't taken it down.

Has anyone seen any news from LTBT addressing the concerns about this nonsense?

I agree that we have regressed in a big way. What happened?

I think a contributing factor is fewer visible female singers / musicians that don't conform to hyper-feminine stereotypes and vice versa.

I had a heap of gender non-conforming idols to choose from as a teenager, I can't think of any who'd come close now.

Im gonna say.... social media?

I agree that we have regressed in a big way. What happened?

I have noticed that the new generation of mememememes seems to have that very same 1980s haircut (short back and sides, longer and floppy on top).

Someone really should tell them that's this is how their mums were wearing their hair back in the day.

Back in the 80's the Princess of Wales wore tuxedos and had relatively short hair and people just thought she was wearing clothes.

We have regressed so far.

To be honest, if you simply take out the bit where Jamie decides, apropos of nothing, that she is a boy, the book works quite well as a nice story of self-confidence and liberation.

The whole idea that some children can be labelled 'gender non-conforming' absolutely boils my piss.
ALL children are gender non-conforming, whatever that phrase is supposed to mean. It's only when we get worn down by the hell that is other people do we doubt ourselves and feel that we might have to start to conform to ridiculous gender stereotypes and act to what other people want. The implication that most children are assumed to be conforming to restrictive and toxic societal norms is offensive and what we should be fighting against.

I don't know if I'm thinking of the same thing as you howmany, but I have definitely read things where gender nonconforming people (especially more "masculine-presenting" lesbians or even just not-particularly-feminine girls) said that they felt almost pressured into declaring themselves trans because they felt they were being asked about pronouns more constantly/in a more pointed way because of their appearance, compared to others who were more gender (or stereotype!)-conforming. (Can't remember where I read it though!).

There was an article recently mentioning detransitioners saying adults asking for pronouns made things harder for them - I didn't read the article though, did anyone else catch it?

Was it because it makes it harder for them to change their minds once they've made a public declaration?

We all define our own gender
I'd like to define mine as getting more pay than I do.

I’d make my own. It would be rude and to the point. I never liked tribalism when I was at school.

Yes, fekko

Council gives pronoun stickers to trans pupils

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brighton-and-hove-city-council-provides-pronoun-stickers-for-trans-pupils-fkbzs0gjb?shareToken=b472444ee1264ed3e1ab102b0ae0579f

This must’ve been in the times today. DH was rolling his eyes about it over breakfast.