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Fuck. My turn for trans awareness training.

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HolyFuckA · 31/03/2019 19:01

At work. I've told my boss I'll probably fail and my reasons why. She was pretty good about it and interested when I explained my views. But I have to pass. It's mandatory. I wonder if it's going to give me a pronouns test?

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EvelynShaw · 01/04/2019 12:36

thehightsky thanks! The mind boggles. Esp since it’s at the NHS...

MNSDKHheroines · 01/04/2019 10:47

If they give you a list of protected characteristics and it doesn't include sex take a screenshot/photo.

hipsterfun · 01/04/2019 10:34

if you fail a mandatory on-line training in my NHS trust, you have to do face to face training where you WILL pass.

I’d be failing on purpose so I could sit and do this Confused in person for an hour then ‘pass’ because the alternative is most likely a long stay in the gulag

GraceMarks · 01/04/2019 10:03

Sounds like the one on Civil Service Learning? As far as I remember, it's mostly about race and sexuality, with one "example" about a trans person. It really wasn't that bad, it was just pointing out that an employer shouldn't "out" a trans person to their colleagues without their permission. That said, I did it more than a year ago and it could well have changed by now. Let us know what it's like, as I think I have to do a mandatory refresher on it soon...

thenightsky · 31/03/2019 22:32

EvelynShaw

Not sure about the OP's local government employer, but if you fail a mandatory on-line training in my NHS trust, you have to do face to face training where you WILL pass.

EvelynShaw · 31/03/2019 22:25

Out of interest - what happens if you ‘fail’? Genuine question - I’m not in the uk and the trans bandwagon hasn’t rolled over human rights where I am. Yet.

NeurotrashWarrior · 31/03/2019 21:34

I've just finally realised the value of working with very many very stubborn outspoken women.

They won't take no shit if this rubbish comes anywhere near us.

NeurotrashWarrior · 31/03/2019 21:32

Once you 'hear' it in Sean Connery's voice, you can't unhear it. 

Yep! GrinGrinGrinGrin

CallingDannyBoy · 31/03/2019 21:11

I think you need to be in the righ frame of mind. Speak all the questions out in a Sean Connery voice and wear a camo jacket and sling backs.

thenightsky · 31/03/2019 21:11

BiologyIsReal

Me too. Trouble is I do temping jobs in the NHS and they insist on the mandatory training thing if I want to keep taking short term work there.

I just completed the full list of training to get me up to date, and trans-stuff wasn't on the list.

BiologyIsReal · 31/03/2019 21:04

I never thought I would say this, but I am really grateful to be old and retired and way past having to put up with this utter batshitting fuckwittery.

HolyFuckA · 31/03/2019 20:17

Sorry, I'm shit at responding to individual posts but I will keep this thread as a reference point for when I do it so I can make notes. If I'm questioned as to why it took me so long I'll let them know it was because I found it so hard and confusing. Which it will be with all the fucking word salad and mental gymnastics that goes with this shit.

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HolyFuckA · 31/03/2019 20:13

Yes, I will report back. I'm sure it'll help me and my wrong think...

I have a list of shitty e-learning to do. Health and safety, GDPR and the likes. Then this thrown in for good measure. Fortunately I have some overtime I need to put in which I've had the green light to do at home, so I'll make sure I do this one then. That way at least I can scream loudly as I plough through it.

I will provide feedback to my boss. I've already told her we're in breach of the equality act with our equality policy (gender cited, not sex). Had it minuted in my meeting with her. Small things but I keep plodding on with it.

I'm local government. Woke of the woke. It can be excruciating but my team are pretty good and know I'm GC.

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AgentProvocateur · 31/03/2019 20:07

The difference between public and private sector. I had to do mandatory etraining today too - but mine was anti bribery and corruption. I passed on the third attempt.

nauticant · 31/03/2019 20:07

At the least, if you come across questions that compel you to give answers which you know to be factually incorrect/statements of politics rather than fact, you might want to make a record of them. While no one is watching, of course.

CatGoals · 31/03/2019 20:03

I had to do this. It was the GIRES one. It said that if a woman in the swimming baths was uncomfortable with a penis-owner using the female changing rooms, that we should advise the woman to go elsewhere.

Hmm
Butterymuffin · 31/03/2019 20:00

Yes, do report back. And look for the name of the training course and provider.

justicewomen · 31/03/2019 19:58

It would great if you take it and report back on how they interpret the law. In particular do they recommend an equality impact assessment also consider the impact of any polices amended to accommodate trans people on the protected characteristics of sex, religion and belief and disability?

It is often that failure to look at the balance of rights (and potential for indirect discrimination) that is the undoing of the pressure -groups advocated policies. Also they forget that, in general (ie unless expressly allowed in the Act, it is unlawful to positively discriminate in favour of any PC except disability. They can do positive action but not discrimination see s158

HoozThatGirl · 31/03/2019 19:49

I'd guess the NHS?

HermioneWeasley · 31/03/2019 19:46

What role do you do that trans training is mandatory and has a test which must be passed?

Candidpeel · 31/03/2019 19:39

You are going to come back and tell us about it?

GarthFunkel · 31/03/2019 19:38

Do you have to do it where other people can see you flicking the Vs at the screen and rolling your eyes and hear you muttering for fuckssssake? Perhaps you could answer with your fingers crossed behind your back?

thenightsky · 31/03/2019 19:34

Bloody e-training. Excuse for them to get away with spouting shite that nobody can question more like.

HerFemaleness · 31/03/2019 19:33

Once you 'hear' it in Sean Connery's voice, you can't unhear it. Grin

ToeToToe · 31/03/2019 19:32

God, have people really nothing better to do than invent new pronouns?? Such pomo bullshit.

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