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Fuck. My turn for trans awareness training.

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HolyFuckA · 31/03/2019 19:01

At work. I've told my boss I'll probably fail and my reasons why. She was pretty good about it and interested when I explained my views. But I have to pass. It's mandatory. I wonder if it's going to give me a pronouns test?

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Snowy111 · 08/04/2019 20:05

isn’t the course just about ticking boxes? Aren’t the trainers/HR just ticking boxes? What’s the point in having a go at them?

ErrolTheDragon · 08/04/2019 19:58

You really need to show them today's Times.
Thanks

HolyFuckA · 08/04/2019 19:54

It was fucking awful. A full on advert for stonewall and mermaids (links to their sites). Comments about suicide rates and how supportive parents get kids on blockers. There's no law on toilets so deal with it. I can't do the evaluation I'm too fucking angry.

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EweSurname · 08/04/2019 19:53

Perhaps after the training you can tell hr that the training made you realise you are not cis as you don’t have a gender identity?

UnderMajorDomoMinor · 08/04/2019 19:49

Sounds painful!

ErrolTheDragon · 08/04/2019 19:42

If it doesn't cover genderfree people who are neither cis nor trans you should complain about their poor coverage of diversity.

HolyFuckA · 08/04/2019 19:36

Now I'm being taught about being cisgender...

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HolyFuckA · 08/04/2019 19:27

Decided against live blog as don't want to provoke those with too much time...

Multiple choice but it's making me cross. Such bollocks and I'm not even a quarter way through.

I got the times today- May scan it in and send it to HR.

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ErrolTheDragon · 08/04/2019 19:09

Gender reassignment is a protected characteristic at whatever stage of transition

But sex is a protected characteristic too.

Ereshkigal · 08/04/2019 19:07

Are you going to live blog it here as you mentioned?

Ereshkigal · 08/04/2019 19:06

Is it multi choice? You'll be able to get a couple of questions wrong and still pass. Pick the two most egregious ones that you really baulk at and answer them "wrong" correctly

HolyFuckA · 08/04/2019 19:04

Eesh. This is worse than I thought. Gender reassignment is a protected characteristic at whatever stage of transition and I must not complain about a man being in the ladies. Really struggling.

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DrG · 02/04/2019 20:51

Just fill it in honestly I reckon, answering what you believe to be the correct answers not what they’ve told you to believe to be the correct answers.

Spaceunicorn6789 · 02/04/2019 20:48

Hang on... Was that Facebook page someone linked up thread genuine or was it a joke? I honestly can't tell

goes back into lurking mode

HolyFuckA · 02/04/2019 20:41

Sounds like a laugh, Holy, but I worry you’d out yourself (timing plus questions would probably be enough for somebody with too much time on their hands to put two and two together).

I hear you. No live stream but I'll report back. Had a rant at my colleagues. Generated some more interesting discussions, they're still in the disbelief state mainly. But the scales are falling.

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Amoregentlemanlikemanner · 02/04/2019 14:12

really concerned about this.

ScienceIsTruth · 02/04/2019 11:40

I would have to be honest to myself so I wouldn't last long in a job like this as I'd have to put what I really think; but I would back up my position with facts, and I would fight it.
I'm also, just generally, not good at keeping what I think to myself though.

As a compromise, you could answer truthfully the first few times, and then on your last attempt, give the expected answers.

Tbh, the equality act should really be protecting you from having to go along with this crap.
Surely as sex is a protected characteristic, you're entitled to single sex changing rooms so the correct legal answer would be that someone with a penis should use the male changing rooms. That is factually correct, surely?
Also, my beliefs don't tally with transgenderism. I don't believe humans can change sex and I believe that transgenderism is a mental health problem, that's evolving into an almost religious cult.

S1naidSucks · 02/04/2019 01:22

Welcome back you naughty, radical women. 🥇

ToeToToe · 02/04/2019 01:00

Hi Trousering, welcome back. I had one of those recently too Wink

Trousering · 01/04/2019 22:14

Hello, I was on a mandatory holiday from mumsnet. Clearly the stuff I say is unpopular with the external monitors.
I would definitely fail this training. I would simply explain it is rejecting truthful and honest, legally held views and statements of fact.

hipsterfun · 01/04/2019 21:57

Sounds like a laugh, Holy, but I worry you’d out yourself (timing plus questions would probably be enough for somebody with too much time on their hands to put two and two together).

thenightsky · 01/04/2019 21:22

I can pretty much predict there won't be any boxes where you can free type your opinions. It will be multiple choice boxes and you'll get a red cross or a green tick depending on whether you are a good compliant employee. [cynical public servant]

OhHolyJesus · 01/04/2019 21:20

Ditto - I did something similar I think, I'd be interested to see what yours asks!

CatGoals · 01/04/2019 20:40

I am definitely down for a live stream! Grin

HolyFuckA · 01/04/2019 20:14

Ok, notes taken. I'm thinking I might attempt it next Monday night about 8pm if anyone is up for a live q and a session...fuck knows I'll be in need of the support. Or will that be considered cheating? Tbf the whole thing will be cheating anyway because I sure as hell won't be answering what I really think.

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