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Fantastic report from Get The L Out - please share widely

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howonearthdidwegethere · 31/03/2019 09:54

Just seen this on Twitter. It charts the experiences of lesbians in the LGBT community, evidence of the cotton ceiling etc.

www.gettheloutuk.com/blog/category/research/lesbians-at-ground-zero.html

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ChattyLion · 28/04/2019 09:26

Oh god that is absolutely horrific Cards like something from 1984.

CardsforKittens · 27/04/2019 12:54

Apparently the connection between penis and rape is the result of cissexism and we can unlearn it. Because being triggered is the result of transmisogyny. This screenshot is from the 300 tweets.
Like some PP, I feel a bit sick.

Fantastic report from Get The L Out - please share widely
VickyEadie · 27/04/2019 12:35

As a woman who has now been with my female partner for 20 years, can I say that this "strap on" notion is entirely alien to us. Thank you.

2BthatUnnoticed · 27/04/2019 12:20

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2BthatUnnoticed · 27/04/2019 12:12

At least this organisation replied I guess Confused Other ones have completely blanked lesbians who try to raise this, and blocked them.

2BthatUnnoticed · 27/04/2019 12:08

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Fantastic report from Get The L Out - please share widely
Fantastic report from Get The L Out - please share widely
Fantastic report from Get The L Out - please share widely
2BthatUnnoticed · 27/04/2019 12:07

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Fantastic report from Get The L Out - please share widely
Fantastic report from Get The L Out - please share widely
Fantastic report from Get The L Out - please share widely
2BthatUnnoticed · 27/04/2019 11:47

I saw people trying to engage with LBTQ organisations about this report, but they were ignored and even shamed for it. LBTQ organisations have turned their backs on lesbians.

Outanabout · 27/04/2019 11:33

Haven't got very far with those tweets as my gorge was rising Sad but the Male rapiness and entitlement is so obvious. TW are entitled to have sex with lesbians, genitals aren't important, blah blah blah. So why do TW bother with a group that isn't attracted to them, why not just have sex with each other?
There was one very sad tweet, heart-breaking really, about hating your own genitals then having someone you fancied being repulsed by the part of you that you hated yourself.

Those rushing to encourage teenagers to 'change sex' should be forced to read those tweets, which show how difficult it can be for TW and TM to find sexual partners.

ChattyLion · 27/04/2019 09:53

Bumping. MPs and the media need to see this

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 01/04/2019 11:30

Recurring themes are a belief that lesbians are all having sex with each other using strap-ons, and therefore shouldn't have a problem having sex with somebody with a penis

This has been said to lesbians since the begining of time by men. I don't understand how people cannot see this for the homophobic bullshit that it is, just because the person saying it may or may not like to wear a dress.

severnbore · 01/04/2019 09:59

Such an important report. Everyone who smugly wangs on about LGBTQQI+++ needs to read.

Oldstyle · 31/03/2019 23:07

Such an important piece of research but equally important that people in positions of power and politicians get to see it somehow. They refuse to accept that women's concerns are valid - this might just help to convince them that we aren't fussing about nothing. Would be good if the MSM take it up. Here's hoping. Huge thanks to the author.

greathat · 31/03/2019 22:58

The press need to do something with those tweets!

greathat · 31/03/2019 22:57

Oh ffs at those tweets. What is wrong with people. The utter stupidity of someone saying that subconsciously someone thinks dick = man. Nothing subconscious about it. It's a clear fact. Sexuality has the word sex in it! Lots of people like other people of a certain sex. To say that's wrong it's just, well I can't even find the words for how stupid and repulsive it is

Whatsnewpussyhat · 31/03/2019 22:55

"Cis lesbians are so uncreative. They're like the straight white boys of the LGBT community"

Hmmmm. Someone with a penis who is attracted to women seems very confused here.

ThePurportedDoctoress · 31/03/2019 22:44

Of course, Jelly, let us know when you get a response.

NotAJellyBaby · 31/03/2019 22:41

I emailed the organisation asking if they had plans on how to use the report. I personally think this needs to be sent to every paper and politician that we can think of but obviously want to let the authors take the lead.

DpWm · 31/03/2019 22:34

The transwomen with peen who fancy men don't seem to be out in force telling straight men that they're disgusting terfs for excluding them either.
It's just plain old rapey male misogyny.

HerFemaleness · 31/03/2019 22:33

I read them all. Recurring themes are a belief that lesbians are all having sex with each other using strap-ons, and therefore shouldn't have a problem having sex with somebody with a penis Hmm. And that same sex attraction is creepy and gross.

If those comments were made by heterosexual men without a doubt they would be called out as homophobic. I don't understand why comments of this nature are acceptable when spoken by a transwoman. .

ThePurportedDoctoress · 31/03/2019 22:28

I'm going to send the report to my MP but I think I'll wait for a lull in the Brexit chaos, because this deserves proper attention.

There needs to be an official reiteration of the equality and sexual orientation being a protected characteristic.
Earlier this month, the government published a report titled "Healthcare amongst lesbian and bisexual women". It's here www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-lgbt-survey-2017-healthcare-amongst-lesbian-and-bisexual-women

"This report is one of a series of short thematic reports, which present further analysis of the survey. It builds on the findings of the main research report. This report presents key findings on healthcare amongst lesbian and bisexual women who responded to the survey. The analysis of cisgender and trans women are presented separately as the main survey revealed that the two groups report different experiences."

NotAJellyBaby · 31/03/2019 22:17

I got to 40 and couldn't go on. Such a hate filled movement. Shockingly, transmen aren't out in force demanding gay men have sex with them. Can't imagine why Hmm

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Knicknackpaddyflak · 31/03/2019 21:51

I could only stomach about 12 of those tweets before I clicked away. The answer to every single one I read was to think the person tweeting was out of their minds. And not in a fun way.

OhHolyJesus · 31/03/2019 21:34

God the findings and the twitter screen shots. It's really really bad, much worse than I thought. I don't mix in circles to be informed on this so this is useful and depressing in equal measure.

I will try to take something quite positive from this as surely the T needs to be cast off from LGB now as this shows how serious the misogyny and homophobia, specially against lesbians is...this must the beginning of the end?