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The irony of a male asking a woman to justify why 'cis' is offensive

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Prequelle · 29/03/2019 22:25

And then try to mansplain why it can't possibly be

twitter.com/Brandon_Bahret/status/1111744357940510722?s=19

Can a man ever understand why we feel so strongly about being rightly named 'woman'? I don't think they can because they haven't had the same battle for identity that we have.

I actually really struggle to put into words why I dislike cis so much. It's visceral. But us shunning cis and telling people we find it offensive isn't enough apparently.

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Ereshkigal · 29/03/2019 23:28

I just watched Julia's video again, thanks for the link, it cheered me up!

teawamutu · 29/03/2019 23:27

What a twat.

andyoldlabour · 29/03/2019 23:22

Brandon is a complete and utter f*ckwit - end of.

nettie434 · 29/03/2019 23:09

I am not really a fan of Julia Hartley Brewer but I keep this little video to calm me when I hear a man saying women should not mind being called 'cis'. It was quite poular on MN when it was broadcast:
talkradio.co.uk/news/julia-hartley-brewer-im-not-cis-woman-there-are-only-women-or-trans-women-18113029022 Grin

DarkAtEndOfTunnel · 29/03/2019 23:08

Because use of 'cis' makes us a subset of our own sex - or gender as they prefer? And naturally, the much less important, less stunning and less brave, one, who therefore should shut up about their petty little issues in the face of the biologically male. Because it enables men to define women however they want.

TurboTeddy · 29/03/2019 22:52

Best me to it Errol.

Does Brandon know the internet is forever, Muppet.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/03/2019 22:47

Just another twit twittering. For instance

'The term "cis" refers to a descriptive quality of an individual, not a subjective quality. Terms like "men/women" refer to a subjetive quality of an individual, not a descriptive quality.'

Nope. 'Men/women are objective properties determined by the individual's sex. Cis is a redundant term.

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Prequelle · 29/03/2019 22:46

They only insist on it so much because they want the term women to be a free for all yet still want to other us and differentiate us.

I haven't been as infuriated in a long time as I have with the man in these tweets.

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Justhadathought · 29/03/2019 22:46

...because women have already, and still are, fought/fighting long and hard enough not to be just a sub-category of man-kind. You know - where the automatic pronoun is 'he' or 'his'; where the human skeleton used is always a male model; where the language and therefore perception revolves around male examples. A 'lady doctor'; a 'female artist', and so on......Women will no longer meekly accept being a mere adjunct of a male determination, or category. Women have integrity in and as themselves.

Taswama · 29/03/2019 22:44

Like woman just means ‘not man’?

FermatsTheorem · 29/03/2019 22:39

A male friend of mine recently tried to mansplain that "cis" just meant "not trans". I and two GC friends explained rather heatedly why this was not the case.

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Prequelle · 29/03/2019 22:25

twitter.com/Brandon_Bahret/status/1111744357940510722?s=19

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