Rachel McKinnon suspended from Twitter

Correction:

McK is cleary as ignorant about grammar and etymology as they is about sports science.

Little linguistics exploration here:

The usage of "they" is not misgendering. It cannot be as singular "they" is a generic pronoun referring to both male and female people.

Singular "they" has been in use since the 14th century. And actually predates the use of "he" as the ostensibly gender-neutral, generic standard to refer to male and female people (despite that accepted meaning, we know from contemporary writings "he" was consciously promoted to portray men as the default, the primary sex).

In the 18th century grammarians started proscribing singular "they" and demanding the use of "he", this intensified over the next 150 years. By the middle of the 19th century there was even act act in the UK parliament about the use of generic "he".

What would be quite fun, I think, just to drive home the absurdity of not being allowed to name males as male on a feminist board (where we all know how important it is to name males as male because that is the sex that oppresses us all), so what would be equally absurd as that rule, would be to use the wrong verb forms with singular "they".

By convention, it isn't used with third person singular -s verb forms. But maybe we should.

Example:

McK is cleary as ignorant about grammar and etymology as they is when about sports science. Could have some fun with this, what do you think?

Happy days...what took them so long.

McKinnon happy to abuse Glinner. Retweeted this:

mobile.twitter.com/ClosetGirlFTW/status/1111787098263179264

Rose-Coloured Sophie
@ClosetGirlFTW
Replying to
@x44203
and
@rachelvmckinnon
Seriously tho, “die in a grease fire” is far less graphic and detailed than what I’ve said I want to do to Glinner

And happy to directly abuse @Glinner

mobile.twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1111734062304108544

And posting a tweet with a Gif of someone laughing in front of a fire:

mobile.twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1111791882760261632

And happy to make further threats, having “poked the wrong person”:

mobile.twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1111754436995698688

What a seriously vile person.

Oh ok, didn't see that.

I think nauticant was referring to:

poster lady69 Fri 29-Mar-19 23:25:18
The cyclepath. We know it’s game.

I've looked but I can't see anything with "it". Anyway I thought you were referring to my comment about avoiding pronouns.

I won't call a male person 'she' anymore than I'd call a human person 'it'. If I'm demanding respect I acknowledge that I need to give respect. In this person's case I'm happy to refer to them as McK. Maybe MCK if
I'm tired.
I'd never knowingly mis-sex a person though....

I'm not sure if you missed it but look upthread Ereshkigal.

I've never called a person "it" in my life. I wouldn't call someone's pet animal "it".

me too, re. calling male persons by female pronouns. It always felt wrong. It always felt silly. I did it out of politeness and fear.

Calling McKinnon "it" gives them the chance to assume the mantel of victimhood. "They" or "McKinnon" is more likely to get a useful rage response.

Not misgendering. But not having my speech actively compelled either.

I'm not happy to call any male person by female pronouns. It feels much better now I've stopped doing that, and I'm not reversing it.

Some I'm happy to call by their desired pronouns - generally those too well mannered to demand or bully... politeness and respect breeds the same. RM will forever be a 'they' or an RM on here and Twitter. Never ever anything else.

The cyclepath. We know it’s game.

Wow! Linda Riley actually hates women. Life's ironies never fail to surprise. I reckon Linda Riley doesn't really 'identify' as ( & therefore with) a woman at all

But to deliberately target women undergoing an unpleasant medical procedure who just want to maintain a modicum of dignity, privacy and control over what happens to their own body - and do so advocating for a cause which erodes these boundaries in such a way that it's a very real possibility that in future women will have the stark choice of AGP health care professionals versus refusing vital medical tests... That's just evil.

Indeed it is.

McKinnon can't help themself. KF predicted that tenure would ensure the (barely there) mask would drop like a stone.

Bring it on.

Lolololol. Yes, pal. I do it all the time about people for whom if I used the correct sex pronoun, I would be deleted or banned. And until we are truly in a dystopia where you can compel speech, there ain't nothing you can do about it, McKinnon.

This, exactly. We can also avoid using pronouns at all, which is my preferred option.

"Because it seems a very odd look for a lesbian so stridently defending and helping someone like RMK, who has suggested that lesbians should 'cope/adjust' just fine to an encounter with a penis."

Thanks Pombear, I am really perplexed by this, because none of it makes any sense.
Why are the "handmaidens" protecting RMK when they are openly hateful of women, whatever their sexual persuasion?
I honestly think that RMK's earlier tweets were so obscene, that they could be taken as an incitement of violence towards women, which in the UK is surely a criminal offence?

For all XX warrior women and with a slice of nose snub to those who'd have us "die in a grease fire"...

Yeah McKinnon was suspended for saying that women should die in a great fire.

McKinnon mate Linda Reilly said she had connections to help her

Reilly the lesbian who is gonna have to adjust to the penis according to McKinnon but hey that’s what friends do

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Only suspended...not banned?

It appears RMK would like us all to be compelled to use forced-speech to make us all refer to RMK in the way that RMK would like us to refer to RMK. I, for one, am glad that RMK is back on Twitter in all RMK's glory - helps to shed light on RMK's batshittery.

And personally, the more RMK expresses RMK's wish that I should only refer to RMK by the pronouns that RMK demands, the less I feel minded to do so.

Like many have said previously, here and on twitter, lots of women who RMK would class as 'transphobes' (aka women seeking to ensure women's rights aren't rolled back) are actually women who've had loads of experience in dealing with toddler tantrums and know the importance of holding lines and boundaries.

Linda, on the other hand, is more of a puzzle. Has she hitched her wagon to the wrong horse and is now too embarrassed/entangled/financially comitted to be able to unhitch?

Because it seems a very odd look for a lesbian so stridently defending and helping someone like RMK, who has suggested that lesbians should 'cope/adjust' just fine to an encounter with a penis.

Yes, indeed. Initials or neutrality is all certain people get out of me. And an invitation to plant a smackeroony on my peachy if they don't like it.