Gender critical board?

Mainly I want to unlink in main stream thinking that you have to be a feminist to be gender critical. And so therefore people who team up to fight genderism are "betraying feminism" when sometimes it's not about that.

I get you. It's like the glinner thread at the moment. It would probably be a positive step to start more GC threads on other boards.

I don't think much of this criticism is coming from a place of looking out for feminists, though. It's mainly non feminist, or people whose main priority isn't feminism, trying to force division.

I think gender critical is, to a certain extent, mainstream thinking.

Yes, there's a lot of swaying by the patriarchy, a lot of habit, but most people these days are at least a fair way along the road to agreeing that men and women are perfectly at liberty to wear what they like, and be in whatever career they want to be in (for example). It falls down a little in practice due to traditions, but most people definitely at least think that they think equality is the way forward.

I don't think that's mainstream thinking.

Honestly, if someone ‘doesn’t identify as a feminist’ to the point where they can’t even hold their nose to post on an anonymous chat board that has the word ‘feminism’ in the title, then no, I’m not especially interested in their opinion, as that is pretty much the definition of bigoted (and I don’t usually use that term as it’s wafted around willy-nilly now by TRAs meaning ‘you disagree with me’).

Setting up a separate non-feminist board would just be pandering to the inherent misogyny of those who seek to undermine and demonise feminism, IMO.

Arewehumanorbones what problem is it you're trying to solve?

Perhaps there are other solutions.

You don't need a board to start a thread you know! You could go over to chat, for example, and start a thread "gender critical idea from a non-feminist POV" and see if you get any takers.

New boards usually happen because there's loads of posters who want them, not because people are worried about a thriving section of the website not being "inclusive" enough!

Gender critical board would be seen as red rag to a bull in some quarters and MN would be under intense pressure to pull it down,

It would be a bad move.

Is there any evidence of hoards of people who don't "identify as" feminists feeling inhibited from posting on gender critical posts?

I doubt it!

But also - feminism isn't the only section on the website. If you want to post from a non-feminist point of view on trans issues you can go ahead and do that in politics, or schools, or wherever else the issue arises.

FWR includes gender critical posts from a feminist perspective.

This is a MASSIVE issue in contemporary feminism. Of course we should be discussing it in feminist forums!

Nope, it's not needed

You could ask for a non feminist gender critical board, but you'd need to ask in site stuff, not in fwr.

No, there's enough boards. Too many just dilutes things.
There's no real need to be gender critical unless it's from the perspective of women's and children's rights, which is covered in the Feminism and Women's Rights in the title

People who don't identify as feminists may find it more acceptable to use.

This forum is called "Feminism chat". Anybody who doesn't like that is not obliged to post here.

My view? We certainly do not need a separate 'Gender critical' forum.