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Don't question puberty blockers.

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Gingerkittykat · 29/03/2019 14:19

Don't you dare question puberty blockers!

www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/seven-children-under-16-in-dundee-taking-drugs-to-delay-puberty-as-they-question-their-gender/?fbclid=IwAR3vGuDT5iEqgIubSVHmzq4yYXpDj4ofOFR76eecnJ17-rp0HYwcMrFhLWk

Councillor Gregor Murray, who identifies as non-binary, said: “Puberty blockers support young trans people through a really tough time in their life – by preventing the mental trauma of going through the wrong puberty.

“They delay making any long-term decisions until the child is old enough to make those decisions for themselves.

“We wouldn’t have a public discussion over the pros and cons of a new cancer drug, or a new cream for acne.

I do find myself alarmed at agreeing with the wee frees on an issue, I was vocal about disagreeing with their opposition of gay marriage and hate their Keep Sunday Special campaigns.

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anniehm · 29/03/2019 15:59

These drugs are prescribed for other reasons too - premature puberty for instance, I don't know if a freedom of information request will distinguish why they are prescribed. My friends daughter was put on blockers when she started puberty at 7

OrchidInTheSun · 29/03/2019 15:39

Can anybody explain how these drugs are being prescribed when they're not licensed to be used for the purpose they've been used for?

RedToothBrush · 29/03/2019 15:36

“We wouldn’t have a public discussion over the pros and cons of a new cancer drug, or a new cream for acne.

What do they think robust clinical trials, research studies with post use follow up and discussion of ethics actually are? Followed by NICE recommendations based on consultation with medical professionals in the field complete with a cost effectiveness assessment?

These are, in effect, a public safeguarding discussion to ensure the drug reaches a minimum standard to prevent harm.

Where this discussion does not take place, you automatically get an alternative discussion to ask WHY there hasn't been this proper process. This discussion would typically ask why drugs are being recommended on the basis of lobbying and/or corporate pressure alone. Because this is wholly unethical and exposing vulnerable patients to potential harm.

Its almost as if they don't know what evidence based medicine and safeguarding actually is.

Oh. Wait.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 29/03/2019 14:59

It is biologically impossible to go through "the wrong puberty"

Taking cross sex hormones doesn't magically turn a teenage boy into an adult female.

Whatisthisfuckery · 29/03/2019 14:54

Isn’t he/they the charmer who called women cunts?

The idea of waiting until you’re older is that you’re more mature and better able to weigh up the consequences of an action. Clearly that isn’t going to be the case if you’re taking powerful drugs that stop your brain from maturing, especially when you’re effectively in a state of stasis while all your peers are growing up and away from you.

Just because a thing can be done, it doesn’t mean it should be done.

AncientLights · 29/03/2019 14:53

Obviously my phone is English: auto corrected from Gregor to Gregory. Still a fool though.

AncientLights · 29/03/2019 14:52

Gregory is a fool.

endofthelinefinally · 29/03/2019 14:48

Any new cancer drug has to go through years of complex, very carefully controlled clinical trials.
Clinical trial protocols have to be thoroughly scrutinised by ethics committees.
The current situation with puberty blockers is about as far from ethics committees and carefully designed and controlled clinical trials as it is possible to be.

Hereford1 · 29/03/2019 14:48

Roaccutane.

littlbrowndog · 29/03/2019 14:42

We do if the drugs are untested on children and nobody has followed up on the children on what the long term effects are to these children

It’s a scandal that we are giving kids these drugs Gregor

It doesn’t pause puberty it stops it. Susie greens child did not have enough of a penis having been on the blockers to create an opening

What chance would these kids have to change their minds

Giving drugs to kids because they are confused is a terrible thing to do

OvaHere · 29/03/2019 14:30

“We wouldn’t have a public discussion over the pros and cons of a new cancer drug, or a new cream for acne.

The thing is we would do exactly that if those drugs caused side effects and complications that potentially outweighed the benefits.

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