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If Glinner is such an 'ally' why is he working only with white men?

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Plinytheprettier · 29/03/2019 12:51

I'm a GC feminist, but I do find all the fawning around Graham Linehan to be pathetic. He's barely given a peep about women's rights in the past, and suddenly he's jumped on the anti-TRA bandwagon, centering himself in what is and should a women-led movement (i.e. feminism).
The last straw for me is seeing fellow feminists fawn over this tweet - he posits himself as an ally, yet shows 0 interest in opening up the world of comedy beyond the thoughts of white men.

twitter.com/Glinner/status/1111351941374922752

A heterosexual man being critical of transgenderism =! feminism

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JessicaWakefieldSVH · 29/03/2019 14:17

It’s just purity politics and it’s completely counter productive. You’re criticising him based on one photo. I mean, do you work with white men? Should nobody work with white men ever again? This is so silly.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 29/03/2019 14:17

Being critical of Graham Linehan does not make me less of a feminist

Yes, that is your right and your opinion.

As it's other peoples right to hold other opinions.

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 29/03/2019 14:15

I didn't realise being a glinner superfan was a prerequisite to being a gc feminist.

No that’s not what’s happening. You came here and posted about one photo as if it represented all his work, and in addition attacked feminists who support him and referred to that as ‘fawning’. You’re not being challenged because you’re not a ‘superfan’, you’re being challenged because you appear to be criticising someone for working with white men and still being ‘part of the patriarchy’. You’ve singled him out in a completely unfair way, and tried to tell other feminists they’re wrong for supporting him.

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Plinytheprettier · 29/03/2019 14:15

No Datun I think that support can be critical and I'm allowed to hold a different view if I wish. Being critical of Graham Linehan does not make me less of a feminist

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 29/03/2019 14:14

because "Gender Critical" means Critical of gender, as in, not likeing the sterotypes of Boy's and Girls things.

What did you think it was?

Datun · 29/03/2019 14:13

Do you think women shouldn't have supported him, OP? Is it their support that you are finding difficult to swallow?

I mean, which ever way you cut it up, he's gone above and beyond over this specific issue.

LizzieSiddal · 29/03/2019 14:12

Motherland

Bluestitch · 29/03/2019 14:12

You can criticise him if you like, and people can disagree with you. I mean what do you want him to do about the fact that Arthur Matthews and the Divine Comedy fellow are blokes? Should he have asked a couple of random women to join in the photo to look better? And as has been pointed out already, he does work with women.

poorbuthappy · 29/03/2019 14:12

God I just laughed out loud at the Meghan Murphy comment directed at Datun.

Seriously OP, bow out graciously, you're coming across as an idiot.

You aren't the person who made the comment about Linda Bellos not knowing anything as well are you?

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 29/03/2019 14:11

You saw red because he was working on the musical of Ted with the co-creator and original composer?

It just makes no sense. To isolate one photo as some sort of example of him not being the right kind of guy to support after what’s just happened, after his campaigning for abortion rights as well... no sense. You are reducing a person to one tweet and attacking other women for supporting him because he works with white guys sometimes. This is nothing to do with feminism.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 29/03/2019 14:11

Maybe you mis-understood it ?

nauticant · 29/03/2019 14:11

a couple feminists

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Plinytheprettier · 29/03/2019 14:09

Bluestitch and you think I don't? Can't I criticise all of those things and Graham Linehan? I didn't realise being a glinner superfan was a prerequisite to being a gc feminist.
But apparently shapiro and peterson are 'gender critical' so the definition must have expanded rather from what I understood it to be!

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Judashascomeintosomemoney · 29/03/2019 14:06

and to see an all male team like that by someone who seems to cast himself in the role of 'ally'
And when he works with Sharon Horgan, Holly Walsh and Helen Linehan, what then? Or is that not enough, he must only work with women to be allowed to be an ally?

Bluestitch · 29/03/2019 14:06

You saw red because he was working on the musical of Ted with the co-creator and original composer? Mmm. I see red when I see women's panels with no biological women, or signs telling women to ignore their instincts in single sex spaces, or misogynistic men trying to get women sacked for wrong think. All things I've seen Glinner publicise to his 600k + followers in the last few days alone.

Arewehumanorbones · 29/03/2019 14:05

... they often start with the exact phrase "as a GC feminist".... I think?

Datun · 29/03/2019 14:05

Datun 'the one person'. I assume you've never head of Meghan Murphy then i.e. an actual woman and feminist currently suing twitter over their censorship of feminist ideas?

Of course!

I meant if you're going to pick on somebody why pick on someone who is doing something?

Not 'why don't you pick on someone else who is doing something.'

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 29/03/2019 14:04

Have you ever actually watched anything he has written?

AdultHuman · 29/03/2019 14:04

OP so talk to us about the other men you have issues with, what are your opinions on them?

SleepDeprivedCabbageBrain · 29/03/2019 14:02

Sorry, what? He's been advocating for abortion in Ireland for years.

www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/19/graham-helen-linehan-ireland-abortion-amnesty-international

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Plinytheprettier · 29/03/2019 14:02

Because I sat that tweet and saw red as I've said at least twice?

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CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 29/03/2019 14:01

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Father Shaft was black.

AdultHuman · 29/03/2019 14:01

Why focus on Glinner in particular OP? Confused

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Plinytheprettier · 29/03/2019 14:01

Datun 'the one person'. I assume you've never head of Meghan Murphy then i.e. an actual woman and feminist currently suing twitter over their censorship of feminist ideas?

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AdultHuman · 29/03/2019 14:00

Motherland or Motherhood? Confused

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