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Deborah Orr

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notwokeup · 27/03/2019 17:48

Just a shout out for how great Deborah Orr has been on Twitter recently, and how much I admire her.

She was a couple of years above me at uni and I remember seeing her sitting on a desk in the student newspaper office, all big hair and pixie boots, cool as fuck, and obviously a rising star then. (This was the early 80s!)

I'd always admired her writing, but I think she's really stepped up with the GC stuff recently, showing Sally Hines up for the foolish handmaiden she is.

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OrchidInTheSun · 27/03/2019 19:34

I started off as an instinctive ally too. I think many of us did. And once the scales fell, they kept on falling. So I'm no longer peak transing but the idiocy of rabid transactivism never fails to disappoint.

ColeHawlins · 27/03/2019 19:32

Janice Turner and Hadley Freeman are the women journalists that I admire.

They've been speaking up right from the start, even when it was arguably dangerous.

They've never used their platform against women. Only for us.

RepealTheGRA · 27/03/2019 19:29

I think the point is that she's moved on from there. As have I. I can remember thinking Julie Bindel was out of order. I don't now. I feel I've learnt and grown

I used to think lots of the women on here were a bit ‘mean’ and ‘angry’ even after I’d peaked. These days on the rare occasion I come across someone angrier than me, I just assume they know more and I should listen to them. My current stance is most GC people aren’t nearly hardline enough.

Floisme · 27/03/2019 19:21

I think Deborah Orr's journey illustrates the utter stupidity of the trans lobby. She started off as an instinctive ally and (as I said on another thread) all they had to do to maintain her support was show a modicum of respect and sense. If they can't keep women like her onside then they really have lost it.

zanahoria · 27/03/2019 19:21

Has she actually had any decent articles on this subject published or is it all on twitter?

ColeHawlins · 27/03/2019 19:15

Fine. It's good she stopped the anti-science, anti-woman nonsense.

But I'm not going to lionise any woman who derided us for championing women.

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notwokeup · 27/03/2019 19:13

I think the point is that she's moved on from there. As have I. I can remember thinking Julie Bindel was out of order. I don't now. I feel I've learnt and grown.

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ColeHawlins · 27/03/2019 19:09

Meh. She did far too much handmaiden berating of the naughty TERFs. I'm not going to gush in gratitude because she eventually stopped.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/19/feminism-trans-women-female-enough

HollowTalk · 27/03/2019 19:07

I love her and am so glad she's got rid of the burden that was her husband.

teawamutu · 27/03/2019 19:06

I remember Jack Monroe IDing as non binary (I think?) and then seeking to go back to female pronouns. Will be interesting to see what happens.

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notwokeup · 27/03/2019 19:03

I really think it is an ongoing journey for so many people. There are also a few high profile women journalists who have been disappointingly silent on the matter...

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NotTerfNorCis · 27/03/2019 18:53

Jack Monroe is now being targeted on twitter for the heinous crime of following her!

Can't they see this kind of Stalinism will only peaktrans more people?

Monroe was accused of disloyalty not long back, but I can't remember the details of her crime.

R0wantrees · 27/03/2019 18:45

Jack Monroe is now being targeted on twitter for the heinous crime of following her!

I believe Deborah Orr has commented that a factor in her viewpoint changing was witnessing the power of the attempted bullying of women by TRAs.

BixBeiderbecke · 27/03/2019 18:33

Yes I think she’s turned a corner on her thinking. It’s interesting to see people on the different stages of the peak trans journey.

RepealTheGRA · 27/03/2019 18:20

Loving Deborah Orr.

Jack Monroe is now being targeted on twitter for the heinous crime of following her!

Deborah Orr
terryleather · 27/03/2019 17:50

She is on fire at the moment, fabulous to behold!

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