TRAs try to ruin Mumsnet survey

I thought thebewilderness left because she felt unable to continue under the guidelines? But that's not really any better.

Lest we forget

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/6kkeni/theerulesoffmisogyny/

When people like the bewilderness are banned yet TRAs can waltz on and abuse women it leaves a bad taste

this. males do seem to get more leeway in moderation than women here.

The truth is that it's made me a stronger woman all round and taught me the ability to think critically,

Me too. I value this board immensely.

I’m glad FWR will stay. I want to add my voice to the others saying that many voices were lost due to targeted reporting by MRA/TRAs and if that’s not an example of coercive control I don’t know what is.

When people like the bewilderness are banned yet TRAs can waltz on and abuse women it leaves a bad taste.

Defo.... AIBU threads zapped for becoming a 'bunfight' indeed? AIBU is all about GFs bringing on the bunfights - much needed therapy for a lot of mums.

There does seem to sometimes be a pattern of some posters determined to either run down or force a thread zap when discussions about Women's Rights & Safeguarding issues take place on AIBU.

I don't read very many AIBU threads so it may be this is more usual but I have felt rather at what seems a pattern.

When I first came to MN I noticed all the idiotic posts. It's so huge that on many threads you're bound to have posters being goady/ biased/ passive-aggressive/ believe everything they read in the daily mail and want to make sure everyone else knows about it/ plain wrong/ haven't read the thread.
It really put me off.
Having been here a while I automatically tune out these posters so i mainly just 'absorb' the sensible or well-reasoned posts!

The impression can be that some want discussions kettled & controlled.

Defo.... AIBU threads zapped for becoming a 'bunfight' indeed? AIBU is all about GFs bringing on the bunfights - much needed therapy for a lot of mums.

Nah, they wont want FWR closed, not without the rest of the site anyway, as god forbid a primarily female space exists where women can speak (virtually) freely.

The impression can be that some want discussions kettled & controlled.

FWR being closed would surely be the LAST thing TRAs want as discussions would m,ove to the likes of AIBU and be even more widely read. Nah, they wont want FWR closed, not without the rest of the site anyway, as god forbid a primarily female space exists where women can speak (virtually) freely.

If it's an amnesty as you say, surely any of those (within reason) posting a different viewpoint to the majority should be allowed back too

Posting within the rules should always be allowed whatever that person's viewpoint.

Eresh YY, think Pat Craven is important, wonderful also inspiring.

(Im not suggesting that she isn't 'cool' re MichaelMN's hope, its just not that common a descriptor that I use. Maybe an age thing- mine of course?)

Further to R0's post I would love the wonderful Pat Craven to do a webchat and think it would be invaluable for many women on this site. @MNHQ could you please try to set it up?

the Feminism and Women's Rights board will be closed over my dead body.

That is reassuring - I started getting anxious that the whole purpose of the survey was a box ticking exercise to close FWR down with the 'appearance of consent' - a bit like the govt GRA consultation. It's nice to know MNHQ value the forum even if it is a pita to moderate.

FWR rocks.

dunno re AAK, but haven't seen her here for a long time

Yes I think so

Has angryattackkittens been banned???

Yes, all sorely missed.

And banned for stating facts.

TheUterati

pratchett

certainhalfdesertedstreets

offred

thebewilderness

angryattackkittens

off the top of my head

all sorely missed

I miss Bewilderness too, youllvehadyourtea (I've always loved your username btw, possibly because of having Edinburgh rellies).

The MIA (your words) got banned for a reason though presumably.
If it's an amnesty as you say, surely any of those (within reason) posting a different viewpoint to the majority should be allowed back too?

I think it would add to the integrity of the board, and the feminist argument to have our MIA back.

The downside - the slippery customers - well the same slippery customers keep reappearing anyway - so it would make no difference on that side of things.

So Mumsnet - is it a goer?

I would like to see a Mumsnet FWR Amnesty, and those missing in action returned to the board.

That would be awesome.

But it would also include all the previously banned posters who have been abhorrent to the women here. Some of whom are very slippery and have, for example, stayed just within talk guidelines whilst comparing their lack of a uterus to infertile women, etc.

Although frankly, as it's a private site, I don't see how HQ couldn't be perfectly partisan if they wanted to.

Absolutely agree we have lost some important voices from the board.

I understand Bewliderness wasnt actually banned - could she be persuaded by those who are in contact to return?

She and others are really missed - its really important that FWR has learned theoretical feminist voices for lurkers like me to read and learn from. Their experience and knowledge is invaluable and it's terrible to see strong voices silenced on a femisit board.

I would like to see a Mumsnet FWR Amnesty, and those missing in action returned to the board.

I notice this when lurking / occasionally posting. There are lots of wonderful voices who we have lost in the last 18 months thanks to harsh moderating, unclear rules and taking reports from non-MNers

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It also reduces the possibility of framing some of the current topics within feminist theory & understanding.

I learned so much from many of the wonderful women's voices on this board.

They are keenly missed.

There is ongoing targetting of some regular FWR posters.

Many of the feminists who posted on this board for a long time are no longer here. Some women who post regularly were/are targetted. It's often not immediately apparent

I notice this when lurking / occasionally posting. There are lots of wonderful voices who we have lost in the last 18 months thanks to harsh moderating, unclear rules and taking reports from non-MNers.

The other day I was wondering whether anyone had kept track of all the women who had been banned, I think it would make sobering reading.