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Our favourite genderology professor from Leeds does it again.

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HerFemaleness · 27/03/2019 00:48

twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1110614526142095362

''A woman, for me, is someone who feels that they are a woman.''

Then somebody asks Sally if she feels like a woman. To which Sally replies

''Well I don’t feel strongly that I’m not so yes.''

And then Vulvamort wins the internet with this.

''So, to recap:
You don't feel like the thing.

But you don't feel strongly that you're not the thing that is a thing because it feels like a thing.

So you've concluded you ARE the thing.

Having earlier said: the thing is anyone that feels they ARE the thing.
Which you don't.''

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JessicaWakefieldSVH · 27/03/2019 11:14

I think if you just stop feeling strongly that you are a woman, your period still just stop?

You’re both right, I’m not trying hard enough. Early menopause is definitely my punishment for being terfy, and probably some sort of cis privilege I should feel grateful for. I mean, this kind of heavy bleeding, painful cramp, extreme fatigue is something others are denied because of biology bigotry. I’m lucky to endure this hormone hell and if I don’t like it, I can always identify out of it.

RedToothBrush · 27/03/2019 11:07

No try Sally hines on my 4 year old who is asking about boys and girls.

Ds: am I a boy?
Sally: well do you feel like a boy?
Ds:????!!
Sally: well do you not feel like a boy?
Ds: I have a willy. Do you have a willy? My mummy doesn't have a willy. Mummy has boobies. Daddy has a willy.
Sally: well if you don't feel strongly that you aren't a boy, you must be a boy.
DS: I like dinosaurs!

My point being that they are trying to teach this crap to 4 years old, and my son is asking about willies and boobies and who has them and why and what are they for and why doesn't mummy have one.

My 4 year old makes more sense in his exploration and learning of the world and this crap will actively harm 4 year old by failing to help them understand the physical nature of the world.

S1naidSucks · 27/03/2019 10:56

JessicaWakefieldSVH

I think if you just stop feeling strongly that you are a woman, your period still just stop

Yes. You’re just not trying hard enough, JessicaWakefieldSVH I think you might be subconsciously terfy. It can be the only explanation for not being able to think your way into being a man and being able to stop your period.

FeministCat · 27/03/2019 10:52

JessicaWakefieldSVH

I think if you just stop feeling strongly that you are a woman, your period still just stop?

Some of the responses to Sally on Twitter are just brilliant. Eyes are starting to open even amongst those who have been sleeping though what has been happening.

Floomph · 27/03/2019 10:48

You really have to laugh don't you?

Singlewhiteguineapig · 27/03/2019 10:31

Love that terry

terryleather · 27/03/2019 10:24

For some reason Hines has put me in mind of this...

Our favourite genderology professor from Leeds does it again.
littlbrowndog · 27/03/2019 10:02

I rember hearing Hines on radio and thinking idiot

Not changed that view

Idiot

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 27/03/2019 09:56

The only thing my cat feels strongly about is that his new renal food is complete filth. Therefore he is a woman

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 27/03/2019 09:50

The chair on which I am sitting does not feel strongly it is not a woman. Therefore it is a woman.

Grin thanks for the laugh!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 27/03/2019 09:42

The chair on which I am sitting does not feel strongly it is not a woman. Therefore it is a woman.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/03/2019 09:30

they believe they are feminists

I wonder if their definition of 'feminist' follows the same logic (if that's the right word...) as 'woman'?

ChattyLion · 27/03/2019 09:18

I think this explains why quite a few not very bright UK academics constantly rely on other very verbose US academics’ decades-old theories from the 90s? (Ie Butler)
Because when they spell out their own interpretation in plain English, they’re just speaking man-pleasing offensive crap that any small child could tell them is totally wrong? And then they get a bit embarrassed because it’s plainly obvious what they are saying actually means for women.. and they believe they are feminists Hmm.... so then they (despite not being trans themselves) go all #nodebate

JessicaWakefieldSVH · 27/03/2019 08:50

I’m very fucking confused.

I’m having my second heavy period within 3 weeks, apparently that does not mean I’m a woman... the feeling I have is utter fucking rage, is that what makes me a woman??

I need another bucket of coffee.....

RepealTheGRA · 27/03/2019 08:38

She’s just dangerous in so many different ways. When she is presented to the general public as an ‘expert’ they instantly know she’s talking bollocks and dismiss her. Leading to ‘experts’ in general being dismissed by the general public, some of whom really need to be listened to.

It’s also victim blaming on steroids, the end result of this is any women who didn’t want to be sexually objectified every time they leave the house would become a transman, ergo those who don’t are happy with the objectification and are ‘asking for it’.

Whatisthisfuckery · 27/03/2019 08:21

So a woman is not actually anyone who feels like they‘re a woman, it’s in fact anyone who doesn’t feel strongly that they’re not. The definition gets more and more woolly by the second.

This is an academic discipline is it? Lol, sally has got to be trolling. And she receives how much in funding grants again?

Ereshkigal · 27/03/2019 08:10

What a fool he is.

LangCleg · 27/03/2019 08:07

And then we have Jesse Singal. He who comes under sustained attack from extremist transactivists despite forever asserting that he's not like all those Evil TERFs:

twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1110642610174070785

Maybe the first time I've seen someone of any importance Hines is a sociologist actually agree to answer this question. This is progress -- the idea that "feeling like a (wo)man" is a sufficient definition of being one at least gives everyone a substantive claim to debate.

One problem with this is that it would exclude people like me from manhood I don't "feel like a man" at all, except when I'm aware I'm acting in accordance with or against some stereotype but again, at least it's a claim we can now discuss/debate.

JFC, Jesse - you've been involving yourself in this subject for years now. You've been using the TERF slur since forever in order to distance yourself from the nasty feminists. And it's news to you that extremist transactivists provide a circular definition of woman? And you've never paid enough attention to what feminists are saying to know that they've been pointing out that nobody "feels like" a man or woman for past fucking god knows how long?

I'll tell you how I know you're a man, Jesse. You're five years behind the curve and you wouldn't be if your sexist self ever listened to women.

MockerstheFeManist · 27/03/2019 08:02

Man: "I Feel Like A Woman"

AKA the Shania Twain Test

Redshoeblueshoe · 27/03/2019 08:00

OMG is it too early for Gin ?

GCAcademic · 27/03/2019 07:45

I see she has no response to Rebecca Reilly-Cooper’s question:

Why would anyone feel like a woman, unless they believed there was some real entity "woman" that exists and can be described independently of their feelings, and that they meet the definition?

Yes, why? They can never answer this one,

Katvonmythicbiowoman · 27/03/2019 07:36

Okay, now I think we all need help when attempting to underhand our favourite Proff of Bantz and Feels. It's like reading a small child's first attempts at writing and having to fill in the gaps, so to speak.

I think she is saying gender roles are the source of all oppression to womanhood. I think? Is that right? It's how the patriarchy treats anyone in this gender role that causes the damage.

So men can opt into the "oppression" by choosing those gender roles. Sally also chooses her oppression by not feeling like a man.

I feel like a man today. I'm going to tie my hair back and pretend it's short. I feel all strong and farty. Watch out world! No oppression for me! #sexismsorted
Who would have thought it'd be so easy?

Our favourite genderology professor from Leeds does it again.
RepealTheGRA · 27/03/2019 07:28

Surely at this point,Sally Hines has peaktransed everybody, including herself, with the unintelligible shite she’s spouting?

Ereshkigal · 27/03/2019 07:17

Vulvamort rocks. Perfectly skewered Sally Hines on her own nonsense.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/03/2019 07:13

*Geordie
*
Professor C,expert in zigbotology
''A zigbot for me, is someone who feels that they are a zigbot.''

person A
'So, do you feel like a zigbot?'

Professor C
''Well I don’t feel strongly that I’m not so yes.''