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Being a woman is scary - Guardian article

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nellodee · 25/03/2019 17:38

www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2019/mar/25/being-a-woman-is-scary-the-unspoken-danger-of-declining-a-mans-advances

Although, of course, being a TRANS woman is scarier.

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Ereshkigal · 25/03/2019 19:22

Deborah ThanksWine

Popchyk · 25/03/2019 19:03

Deborah Orr, Guardian journalist, has had quite enough recently, I see.

twitter.com/DeborahJaneOrr/status/1109134678253101056

"I no longer pretend to believe that people with male reproductive organs and bodies are born female. I'm sorry that I ever did".

and

twitter.com/DeborahJaneOrr/status/1109132617000062976

"The moment I decided I was done was when I suggested to Paris Lees that some of women's concerns did need to be addressed and she told me: "You're either with us or against us." So, here I am. Where Paris insisted I should be".

BarbieJellyBabyBrain · 25/03/2019 18:44

God the number of people on that Twitter thread swooping in to tell Jameela that not all women have vaginas. Fuck off.

And then the appropriation of women who have had cancer, or who have a birth abnormality begins, lumping transwomen with a cock and balls in with them. Just no.

GeordieGenes · 25/03/2019 18:33

Generalized statements are usually offensive. This one is hugely so.

Trans women face huge amounts of violence mainly due to sex work. I believe there was a Brazilian study that proved this. To compare this to the violence that women of colour experience is so offensive I don't even know where to begin.

cattycattycat · 25/03/2019 18:33

When you read definitions of womxn, the x makes it more inclusive of trans and black women.

My daughter was gobsmacked when she read that "omg how racist, they think black women aren't women". It's not a division I have ever heard a woman make.

hackmum · 25/03/2019 18:27

Also does that awful thing of grouping women of colour in with trans women. I’d be so pissed off if I was a black woman at being chucked in with trans women all the time.

zanahoria · 25/03/2019 18:13

This has become the woke house style but its just bad journalism to throw in the claim about certain groups without any more evidence than saying its "well documented". It distracts from the main point of the argument.

Popchyk · 25/03/2019 17:56

She has a Twitter thread.

twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1109971148907773952

From JJ:

"Jesus Christ... read the replies in this thread. Let this be an education to everyone out there about our experience as the disrespected/disregarded gender. I’m so sorry to you all for what you’ve been put through for daring to govern your own vagina".

The first response is to say that some women don't have vaginas.

LeesPostersAreInFrames · 25/03/2019 17:44

I mean, let's just ignore the evidence that being a lesbian turning down a trans person is terrifyingly dangerous and that trans people are being advised to hide their genitals during sex orgies to protect themselves from the dangers of a gay man not being too pleased to find out that his partner isn't male... Hmm

PlumPorter · 25/03/2019 17:43

I wonder how many transwomen are regularly/frequently rejecting advances from heterosexual men?

Redshoeblueshoe · 25/03/2019 17:42

I knew I shouldn't have clicked on a Guardian link.
What a pile of shite.