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Wings of Scotland court case

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/03/2019 16:39

Brief context:

Ex Scottish labour Kezia Dugdale said (in print) that Wings was a homophobe because of a tweet he made.

The reason I think this case may be of interest is because so far:

Chelsea Manning is mentioned. @WingsScotland says Manning is ‘brave’ & a ‘hero’ but has repeatedly been accused of transphobia for his language towards the whistleblower. ‘An empirical biological fact that he is still a man,’ Campbell tells the court.

.@WingsScotland adds that he doesn’t know Manning’s sexuality & says it has no bearing on accusations of homophobia. Various comments by Wings referring to Manning as ‘he’. Being a transphobe does not make you a homophobe, Wings adds.

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LassOfFyvie · 25/03/2019 21:49

Go Rev

Which church is he a reverend of?

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 25/03/2019 21:32

Counsel: What is a wank hole?
Wings: A hole into which one might wank, he explains.
Grin Grin Grin

youllhavehadyourtea · 25/03/2019 21:32

WoS is Fab.
Go Rev.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 25/03/2019 21:27

Wings is known for accurate, well researched and referenced articles. Author can be very unpleasant but his integrity is respected across the political spectrum, I think.

LassOfFyvie · 25/03/2019 21:25

Scottish politics 2019 here

To be clear the person behind Wings Over Scotland is neither a politician nor resident in Scotland.

The tweets about Mundell were not funny. The Wings person has posted on here in the past. I will be very surprised if he does not have a Google alert and I am sure he will be aware of this.

I dislike him and his website intensely. I would not ally with him on anything.

NightmareDaemon · 25/03/2019 20:36

Counsel: What is a wank hole?
Wings: A hole into which one might wank, he explains.

😂

Ereshkigal · 25/03/2019 20:30

Let it not be forgotten that Manning punched a female commanding officer in the face and gloated about what they’d done to “the dyke.”

Indeed.

Ereshkigal · 25/03/2019 20:29

Good on him. I know nothing about Scottish independence politics so I do understand that some Scottish posters may not like him for other reasons, but he's great on the gender stuff.

BlackForestCake · 25/03/2019 20:27

Wings has been very steadfast in opposing the TWAW nonsense. Of course, this makes the, er, sanctimonious wankholes in both pro- and anti-independence groups hate him even more.

BickerinBrattle · 25/03/2019 20:21

Let it not be forgotten that Manning punched a female commanding officer in the face and gloated about what they’d done to “the dyke.”

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/03/2019 18:07

That fits in neatly with the Communication Act 2003, section 127:

Bit worrying if political fact checking comes under that...

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RepealTheGRA · 25/03/2019 17:50

(2) A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience ... to another, he—
...
(c) persistently makes use of a public electronic communications network.

When is Piers Morgan’s court case?

RepealTheGRA · 25/03/2019 17:49

That tweets funny not homophobic!?!

And I’m stealing ‘sanctimonious wank hole’.

I wonder if he posts here? Are there any tweets about cockwombles, wankbadgers or fucknuggets?

nauticant · 25/03/2019 17:47

From your context link ItsAllGoingToBeFine:

Kezia Dugdale Fact Check, Part 683

That fits in neatly with the Communication Act 2003, section 127:

(2) A person is guilty of an offence if, for the purpose of causing annoyance, inconvenience ... to another, he—
...
(c) persistently makes use of a public electronic communications network.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 25/03/2019 17:47

Actually loling

Wank hole

Grin
happydappy2 · 25/03/2019 17:47

I wouldn't read that as homophobic....but I do worry that we are wandering into a situation where stating biological truth IS transphobic & therefore hate speech-which is ridiculous.

PencilsInSpace · 25/03/2019 17:45

Counsel starts running through Wings tweets, including calling someone a ‘sanctimonious wank hole’.
Counsel: What is a wank hole?
Wings: A hole into which one might wank, he explains.
Scottish politics 2019 here.

Grin
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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/03/2019 17:40

I really don't see that tweet is being homophobia

I wonder if that's why transphobia is being brought into it? It's all under the LGBT umbrella after all, and he is undoubtedly transphobic by today's rather loose definition.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/03/2019 17:38

I suspect this may be the surrounding context:

wingsoverscotland.com/?s=Kezia+Dugdale

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 25/03/2019 17:36

Yes, I don’t read that tweet as homophobic either...?

nauticant · 25/03/2019 17:35

Some background:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-47693895

I really don't see that tweet is being homophobia. There may be a surrounding context I'm unaware of, of course. (I'm not a WoS fan.)

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/03/2019 17:35

The tweet in question:

Wings of Scotland court case
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RepealTheGRA · 25/03/2019 17:30

Interesting! Thank you for the thread.

LassOfFyvie · 25/03/2019 17:23

Wings Over Scotland has taken Kezia Dugdale to court for defamation because she accused him of being a homophobe?

The allegedly homophobic remarks relate to comments he made about the father of Conservative MSP Oliver Mundell.

nauticant · 25/03/2019 17:16

Interesting tweets. Especially so to see the line taken against Campbell that he has been a meanie in a number of contexts.

It would be useful for this court case to reinforce the message that being a bit of a meanie does not necessarily mean that someone is guilty of whatever offence they're accused of.

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