I was mildly GC in front of my mates today. Holy moley, this has gone further than I realised.

I have two kids and one income (so REALLY dont want to lose my job) but if it really comes down to it, I will.

LeesPostersAreInFrames bravo for stating your opinions so clearly. That sounds like a very good first conversation, especially since the others volunteered some of the issues themselves. That's often something you first have to explain.

You did well there. Judging from my experience, your fellow hobbyists will pay a little more attention to certain issues over the next few weeks. Give them a little time and if you want to, you could talk about sports. The policy of allowing males to compete against females in female-only sports is almost universally rejected.

I've been doing this for about a year now and with one exception every single person I've spoken to shares our views. It's a nice bit of gaslighting that ours is a minority view. You start to feel really unsure when people keep saying that. But the claim is actually an incorrect extrapolation from the fact that there is wide support for equal rights for trans people. This support is then simply assumed or claimed to also extend to wholehearted support for gender ideology.

We all support equal rights for trans people, of course. We simply don't agree that the rights of female people are superseded by the rights of males who identify as trans or that such males actually are women or that a woman is whoever identifies as one.

And according to a number of polls, we know that the vast majority of people reject legal sex self-identification. People simply do not agree with the idea of giving intact males access to female-only spaces. Most people of course are still unaware that the self-id campaign is not about post-op transsexuals but crossdressers and others who do not medically transition. Once they find that out, they are frequently quite angry about that.

Chiochan

Check out your whistle blowing policy. Then whistleblow, it’s a safeguarding issue.

I work in a school and the idea of mixed loos is very scary but I dont know if I would be able to speak out. The school has a staff member who is very activly pushing 'inclusivity' in the Gires vein and no one will openly challange it.
There are probably more than average number of kids with complex issues. The school has already had to make the main wall seperating the boys loos from the rest of the school half glass (I very strongly suspect to stop them assulting each other) so the idea that young girls will be forced to share their loos is very concerning.

My yes it is was to racism

Yes it is

One friend sai£ the toilets was unisex in most schools and colleges

Naming these correctly as mixed sex is helpful.

(language matters)

*Yet in this country it’s cool for us to have men and boys in our toilets

So it seems that men in other countries are unsafe to be around women and girls when they are in the toilet*

Is that not called ‘racism’

I'd rather be engaged in critical thinking rather than be suffering from insomnia, surviving on autopilot. Which is "woke".

Good answer

I mean in the shops

Obviuosly still in schools etc

Mind you when I was a girl there were still communal changing rooms.

Maybe still are somewhere

And you can ask your mates why the un say that sex segregated toilet spaces is safer for women and girls

Yet in this country it’s cool for us to have men and boys in our toilets

So it seems that men in other countries are unsafe to be around women and girls when they are in the toilet

How does that work ?

The room within a room thing is iffy as well.

As it's away from where most people are.

The shops I've been in with unisex changing have had proper doors and have opened out onto shop floor, which is better.

The changes do seem to erode the opportunity for girls to do the sort of shopping as a group and trying stuff on together looking in communal mirrors that used to go on, which was fun when I was a girl.

No evangelising going on from me!

You said your friends seemed surprised at your views. That to me says they don't have an issue with it like you do. But then later you said 'help, how do I get people questioning this stuff?' If they are ok with it, then that's it. But you want them to question it and presumably come to the same conclusion you have.

Unless top shop have changed since I was a teen, flimsy curtains are standard.

Any old bloke being able to wander in is dodgy as hell.

The response to this often seems to be 'I don't like changing rooms with curtains so I don't use them' but that's not a solution is it?

Also opens the way for victim blaming if /when something happens (well she knew there could be men in there and she still stripped to her knickers).

Yes, there was this slightly weird impression of, yes, we know women don't feel safe in mixed changing spaces or loos, but what can you do, trans people's rights trump that kind of attitude.

For me, it's nothing to do with trans people's rights trumping mine as a womans.
If cubicles are floor to ceiling, I just don't mind who is in the next the changing room or toilet cubicle as I don't have to be in there with them. Before I go in the cubicle, I am fully dressed, by the time I come out, I'm fully dressed. Why would I feel unsafe? I do understand the issue with curtains in changing rooms, I don't like them as there's always toddlers wondering around playing with the curtains and I don't particularly want to be undressed in front of anyone I don't know. I still use them though.

All the lols at skyzlimt

One friend sai£ the toilets was unisex in most schools and colleges

How does the friend know

Is the friend a toilet inspector through out the Uk ?

If l had to share a changing room area with males l just wouldn't buy anything from the shop.

l think when businesses combine toileting areas is lazy.

As a Women and Mother l am very conscious of mine and others personal space.l just think that it is a higher risk to share these type of areas.

Our local Gym/swimming pool just reopened and now the main changing room is communal,apparently their are family changing rooms but you have to go through this main area to to reach them.People have commented nude men can be seen in this area so we won't be joining it.

l just think some of us are more private than others.