Children suspended for removing cctv cameras from unisex toilets.

Qwertylass

So a girl who knows or senses she is bleeding through may get a “one off” to run to the toilet, but of course now rest of the class know she is an “exception” and must have issues? From the time I started menstruating through my early 30s I soaked through pads & ultra tampons in less than two hours. I would have been humiliated as a teen if my classmates knew I had to go to toilet for that.

Or any student with diarrhea or who knows what else may get the same treatment, they are a one off for “special reasons” as otherwise no one gets to go?

I find it appalling when teachers think part of their job of educating involves denying their students toileting needs or humiliating them.

Yeah, I wouldn’t be happy to see cameras in toilets. It would indicate that it was a known problem area.
And are they live monitored or to ‘help’ after something has happened, so no bloody good to me anyway.

And what areas are they covering? If everything, are they hack proof? Who has access to the images? How secure are those images?

Poor bloody kids. No privacy.

And whoever is manning the cameras

Some adult women confess to feeling embarrassed at unwrapping sanitary protection in toilets - silly in many ways but despite this being quite common, young girls learning to manage their periods are being forced to share toilets with boys.

I gushed blood when I hit my teens, so would have leaked through, if I’d had to wait between breaks. But that’s ok, Qwertylass, you didn’t so therefore, girls should have to wait.

A young girl getting used to periods must only use the toilets when they are really busy at breaktimes?

It always worries me when people profess to be teachers and yet repeatedly demonstrate no respect for boundaries or the right to consent. Teachers who force Muslim girls to share toilets and changing rooms with boys, teachers who insist that a girl who has been sexually abused must share toilets with boys - and so on.
It's quite depressing to see such lack of insight and empathy in those who work with children

There couldn't have been long till the next break if it was 2 hours before. And why not change your pad at break. That's what I have to do. Although I would have pwrphaps made an exception if it was a one off for the girl.

In my experience, generally speaking (not aimed at particular individuals) it is the teachers with poor classroom control who have to resort to Miss Trunchbull draconian tactics to stop kids taking the piss. Good teachers are able to manage situations fairly, and reasonably, and understand that their pupils - even the very small ones - are human beings with certain physiological needs which have to be managed with sensitivity and dignity.

I am horrified that anyone could think it was appropriate to install CCTV in a toilet area.

Qwertylass
So would you support this teacher?
www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/mum-slams-school-after-daughter-2669766

They can bring in a note if they have a medical problem x

Biology doesn't follow your timetable. A girl's period can start unexpectedly and I'd expect a teacher to be aware of this, as well as other children who can have problems and special needs.

@Dr

The rare time that happens I allow it as a one off

@Qwertylass what is a child who suddenly becomes unwell with vomiting or diarrhoea supposed to do? Shit themselves in the classroom? Be sick everywhere?

@Imnobody

They can go before school, playtime, lunch and at hometime. Lesson time is a no.

Qwertylass

One of the reasons I don't let my yr 5s go to the toilet.
There have been several reports recently about children being humiliated when needing to go to the toilet in lesson time. Your statement doesn't seem to have much concern or empathy for your pupils or maybe I'm misunderstanding.

Really? Your child comes home and tells you that there toilets have gone unisex and school has put cameras in and you don't bat an eyelid.

But when your child, or someone else's, decides to take direct action you condemn them as vandals.

Way to teach your children that people have the right to piss without fear of being watched, taunted etc

The question is whether these cameras are in all the toilets or just the unisex. If the latter, the school knows there is something wrong with the mixed toilets, but are just waiting for problems before safeguarding reappears.

'Damaging' school property is the clue. Its not really to do with the right or wrong of unisex toilets.

Yes unisex toilets prevent anything from ever happening ever.

Elaborate how?

Qwertylass

Probably because they have vandalised them. One of the reasons I don't let my yr 5s go to the toilet.
Please elaborate

Probably because they have vandalised them. One of the reasons I don't let my yr 5s go to the toilet.

But I thought he der neutral looks erre perfectly safe and helped prevent bullying etc.

So why are there cameras in the first place?

Good for them.