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Mother sues Croydon primary school over ‘pride parade’

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/03/2019 08:47

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f46e4a00-4dab-11e9-96ca-8fefe1a19859

A school holding a pride parade? That sounds lovely and inclusive. The placards are a tad worrying though...

Mother sues Croydon primary school over ‘pride parade’
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Barracker · 24/03/2019 18:13

Thanks RepealTheGRA

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/03/2019 18:09

Original context of image here:
heaversfarm.com/2018/10/18/peridot-martin-luther-king-i-have-a-dream

Archived here: archive.li/KsFKb

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/03/2019 18:03

TBH, I'm not sure the mother suing the school is the story, I think that sign is.

I'm glad the Times chose to use that image as it shows that whilst objecting to LGB education is wrong, objecting the T is an extremely good idea.

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truthisarevolutionaryact · 24/03/2019 17:58

That t shirt clarifies a lot about why they are in this situation. For a Headteacher to allow a member of staff to wear it at a sensitive and tricky meeting with a parent says so much. The fact that she is the the 'deputy safeguarding lead' and the Head's daughter suggests that this is a school with significant problems about professional standards and boundaries.
If you go into a meeting with a parent wearing a deliberately aggressive and inflammatory t shirt like that it signals that you have no intention of listening to or working with the parent. No wonder this has escalated.

RepealTheGRA · 24/03/2019 17:29

That T-shirt is completely unacceptable workwear for a teacher.

Imnobody4 · 24/03/2019 17:16

An earlier article
Mum who complained about gay parade at son's school is shocked by staff member wearing THIS t-shirt | Daily Mail Online
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6425175/
she was stunned to be confronted by a member of staff wearing a T-shirt with the slogan: ‘Why be racist, sexist, homophobic, or transphobic when you could just be quiet?’

The school, Heavers Farm Primary in South-East London, denies her claims, saying the choice of T-shirt worn at the meeting by Attie Copeman-Papas, the school’s deputy safeguarding manager, (the head's daughter, no possible nepotism there then) was entirely coincidental and no offence was intended.
I hope she gets every penny. Wearing a t shirt like that is completely unprofessional. I can't believe the arrogance of some in the Academy section of education.

RepealTheGRA · 24/03/2019 16:49

I agree with her asking for compensation. A financial penalty is the only thing that will make Academy trusts sit up and take notice.

WhenIsTheEasyBit · 24/03/2019 16:07

For those saying teachers are cowed into submission even if they are GC themselves, the cowing comes from higher than headteachers and the local authority. Deputy director of Ofsted jumped on a tweet bandwagon a couple of days ago where the original tweet was referring to LGBT. I don't know whether he genuinely supports the kind of Stonewall approved training that spreads non-scientific and regressive messages or simply and rightly wanted to challenge homophobia, but his word is God to School leaders. The Chartered College of Teaching, massively supported by the DFE and given a huge role in the training particularly of new teachers retweeted a link to a petition against the Transgender Trend materials being distributed to schools. It's all very frightening because it's been such a clever move to attach that T to LGB.

howard97A · 24/03/2019 15:55

If that's the dream of the man who wrote the sign, I'd be seriously worried about him teaching my grandchildren

GrumpyGran8 · 24/03/2019 15:44

I don't know about the sign being a set up but if you Google Izoduwa Montague, Izzy Montague or Izoduwa Adhedo there are loads of results
She's a member of Christian Concern and this particular story is from January. That would at least fit in with the "I have a dreem" sign - MLK day is on 20th January - so the sign is probably real.

MidnightMystery · 24/03/2019 14:48

I asked my Year 1 daughter "what's your dream?"
Her response was " I want to ride a unicorn" Smile

Mumsymumphy · 24/03/2019 14:48

The adult forgot to write 'as' as 'az'. Tut, schoolboy error. Ooops, am I allowed to say that? Sorry, 'schoolperson error' 🤦🏼‍♀️

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 24/03/2019 14:35

I was with the complainant until I found that she was asking for compensation

Asking for compensation for an LGBT event at a school is ridiculous.

But the sign the little girl is holding up is very worrying. I hope that it is fake, because otherwise the school has serious problems.

nauticant · 24/03/2019 14:32

The compensation angle gave me pause for thought but it really depends on the motivation. Complaining and getting a worthless non-apology apology is one thing. Making the school realise that they face a real world sanction would make them pay attention.

DonaldTwain · 24/03/2019 14:23

Whichever sociopath has encouraged children to join in this weirdo adult obsession with the lavs wants putting away.

LassOfFyvie · 24/03/2019 14:18

I was with the complainant until I found that she was asking for compensation

Me too. That element taints it badly.

LassOfFyvie · 24/03/2019 14:17

I don't know about the sign being a set up but if you Google Izoduwa Montague, Izzy Montague or Izoduwa Adhedo there are loads of results including an appearance by Ms Montague on a day time tv show.

The story dates back to November 2018.

AstonishedFemalePersonator · 24/03/2019 14:15

I was with the complainant until I found that she was asking for compensation. I now suspect that this is not a freedom of thought issue but an all aboard the gravy train call.

RepealTheGRA · 24/03/2019 14:11

@Barracker

A Christian mother who refused to allow her four-year-old son to take part in an LGBT “pride parade” at primary school has formally complained to Damian Hinds, the education secretary, that the school had embarked on “systematic proselytism of its young and vulnerable pupils”.

She is also seeking a five-figure sum in compensation from the governing body of Heavers Farm Primary School in Croydon, south London, because she claims her family has been victimised. Izoduwa Montague, 35, said: “We have to make sure parents are back in control of what happens to their children in the school system. I don’t think we wave them goodbye at the school gates and say ‘do what you like with them’.”

A backlash from parents forced the school to downgrade its planned Proud to be Me! parade in June.

Susan Papas, the head teacher, said at the time: “I was surprised at how unembarrassed some parents were about coming into school and expressing quite strong homophobic views.”

Montague’s lawyers at the Christian Legal Centre argue that the school made “LGBT matters a pervasive element of school life”. The school’s website features a year 1 pupil with a placard that she had written after a lesson about Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speech: “I have a dreem if bois cood go to the saim toilet as gerls.”

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 24/03/2019 14:07

I don't know.

That wasn't thought of or written by a little girl.

I don't know what motivated the adult who did write it.

It could have been a tra, or a mock up? I don't know. Whatever is happening, little girls are being used by adults.

BarbieJellyBabyBrain · 24/03/2019 13:57

Oh do people mean this is actually a 'Muslims want to ban Christmas' type story?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/03/2019 13:52

I have a bad feeling about this story. It feels like a set up.

I'd really hope the Times did their due diligence?

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ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 24/03/2019 13:49

It would be excellent to flood media with lots of extreme situations, which later could be proved as untrue. Then anytime someone complains about something that is true, like women being assaulted in prison, the element of doubt it there. It will be easier for tra to claim everything is false.

But, as I said, there are lots of things that tra do that I think are unbelievable.

BarbieJellyBabyBrain · 24/03/2019 13:41

What do people mean by a set up?

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 24/03/2019 13:37

I have a bad feeling about this story. It feels like a set up.

It does to me, too. But I also thought the drag queen story time was a set up.