Caroline's Mail on Sunday Piece is Out

I believe that the thoughts and feelings of the child would be of paramount importance. And have a huge bearing on the situation.

Imagine if the child announced a detransition.

Never thought in a million years that I'd say - I agree with Rod Liddle..

The silence from Jackie G is deafening.

Please do not drag Jackie into this.

Excellent article, Caro. And I'm really glad the complete inaction over your reports of stalking has been aired. Don't suppose there's been any movement on that?

I'm definitely not calling on Jackie to get involved nor would I expect others to shift their focus to Jackie. My point was simply that Susie is not the "victim" here, if there ever was a crime anyway.

It won't be the first or last time that Susie Green's interests come before Jackie Green's.

Well done for getting this issue out into the open Caro.

I was particularly at:

The next day, Ms Green withdrew her complaint because she said she did not want to give Mrs Farrow a public 'platform'. Instead of contacting police, she announced her decision on a television show.

Really, that's why the complaint was withdrawn? Nothing to do with how the wider public would perceive Susie G and what she had done to her child? Don't know what tv show they mean but surely Susie G should have informed her chums in WYP first?

The silence from Jackie G is deafening.

I am allowed to think this.... aren't I WYP?....

Yes, why hasn't Jackie said anything about this? They are 27 years old (so perfectly capable of speaking for themselves without their mum) and a big part of the subject of these tweets.

I think that Jackie should be left out of this. It is something that was done to them as a child, and it has always been SG seeking publicity.

The belief that you cannot change sex has nothing to do with Catholicism!

This is true, but scientific facts are sadly not protected by law in the same way that beliefs are...

It's really significant that they've highlighted the role of West Yorkshire police in this. I have the feeling that the net is starting to close in both on WYP and Mermaids, especially with Liddle's very forthright attack today.

Plus the person actually misgendering was J Green, who hasn't made any complaint afaik.

Yes, why hasn't Jackie said anything about this? They are 27 years old (so perfectly capable of speaking for themselves without their mum) and a big part of the subject of these tweets.

Probe not prove...

Great article, glad they got the mermaids and WYP link in, though definitely need someone with clout to prove that one more deeply.

I find it infuriating that the police refer to S Green as "the victim". Surely it's "the complainant", up until the point where someone is convicted of a crime. Plus the person actually misgendering was J Green, who hasn't made any complaint afaik.

The belief that you cannot change sex has nothing to do with Catholicism!

Its sad that people are reduced to playing the religion card. Even sadder to see Gaby Hinliff attacking Caroline over religion when Caroline was standing up for scientific orthodoxy against a faith based cult.

Very interesting, glad it’s in the news now.

It is a good article, and covers a lot of the main points, Caroline. I particularly liked the linking of Mermaids to West Yorkshire Police. Puts WYP under the spotlight which is about bloody time.

Even having mainstream media interest in the ramifications of self-ID is a huge step up from last year. Progress is being made and ordinary people are asking questions now.

Kudos to Posie, Linda, Venice, Harry the Owl, Flash Maggie, Miranda and Caroline and all others who have been shamefully targeted by the police. They have all handled it brilliantly and with dignity, at substantial personal cost to themselves. Full of admiration.

💪💪🍺🍷caro

Good for you, Caro. More power to your elbow. I want to see this issue gain more traction.

I hope KiwiFarms picks this up, too.

I originally wrote it but then they wanted to turn it into a news feature & wanted personal detail about what I was cooking for dinner etc.

It’s fine. I have a lot more media coming up this week where I shall be making lots of points.

I only ever pulled the religion card because of articles 9 & 10 of the ECHR.

One West Yorkshire officer, Inspector David Harland, declared himself on social media to be a ‘trans ally’, adding that he was dedicated to ‘doing all I can for the trans community’.

Interesting that he didn't say the 'LGBT' community.

When did a police officer ever declare that he or she was a 'gay ally' or state they would do 'all I can for lesbians'...?

homophobic nitwit parents have been trying to erase homosexuality for ages, I get that.

But now the fucking police are on board?

I wonder if it’s too late for the national lottery to see sense and change their mind re the grant they are giving mermaids?
More sunshine, well done Caroline Farrow

This isn't turning out to be a great week for Susie Green.

Good. Long may it continue..

The article lays it all out nicely, but it's very 'Daily Mail' isn't it

Yes, I was disappointed they didn't mention how much her house is worth!

It's a good article though, and I'm glad they've got the connection in between Mermaids and the police. This isn't turning out to be a great week for Susie Green.

I’m glad this piece has been published and very sorry that she has been treated so poorly, by both the stalkers & the police who have failed to protect her & her family.

SG & her allies within WYP are appalling.