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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Word getting out

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TheSteveMilliband · 22/03/2019 00:54

I've just had a chat with a colleague who I'd suspected was "woke" about trans issues. He initially was non comittal and talked about the sex "spectrum". Bit the bullet and said I disagreed and woah! Once he knew I was critical he was absolutely 100% in agreement. Really need to talk more to colleagues, friends - everyone about this, easy to forget after an hr or two on twitter that most people agree. On a bit of a high as sometimes it can feel like we are a few fish swimming upstream. The reality is that many if not most people agree.

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EverardDigby · 22/03/2019 06:41

Pretty much no adult I know really thinks TWAW. A few teens who think it's not very kind, though they are worried about sport and think it's ridiculous to have to remember pronouns amongst those who pick something not obvious or common.

cattycattycat · 22/03/2019 06:24

I spoke to a teacher yesterday about one of our students. I spoke about my fears that children are being lied to, that they think you can change sex with a few operations. The other teacher said she was really glad to hear my comments as she didn't like to say her opinions without knowing how others feel.

Standard secondary school, at least 4 girls are trans. I don't know what advice they are getting, we have had no training/advice on the matter.

Lamaha · 22/03/2019 04:46

It's all so secret. Yesterday I read a meme on FB about LGBT in schools and the majority of the posters on the thread were like Yay!!! But one person said he was beginning to feel uncomfortable, gave his reasons, and apologised if he'd offended anybody. And they all jumped on him to "correct" him. He apologised again. I liked his comment (along with two others) but said nothing. But I had such a bad conscience that this morning I went back, dug up his comment, sent him a friend request, and a message of support as well as a bit of info about the T part of those lessons.
I feel that every single person who comes out with doubts needs support. That's how this works: one person at a time.

PencilsInSpace · 22/03/2019 01:49

Wel done!

We need a secret handshake.

StarSpangledAnna · 22/03/2019 01:34

I'm going to keep talking about it though. Maybe just not to her unless she brings it up first.

StarSpangledAnna · 22/03/2019 01:32

I don't know, I discussed with my most "TRA" friend and ended up getting hung up on. What annoyed me so much was when I was trying to discuss why I feel so strongly about this and asked her if she'd ever been sexually assaulted and she said "well yeah but it's just lads, lads, lads" as if it was nothing.

She thinks she's a feminist but clearly hadn't changed since our teenage years when she told me to stop complaining about some guy fingering me without my consent because that's just what happens on a night out!! She sees and understands the safety concerns women have but chooses to priorities the feelings of men and acts like she's the progressive one and I'm the bigot who will eventually realise she's "on the wrong side of history".

It's just misogyny pure and simple. I did not feel good after that conversation.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 22/03/2019 01:29

Well done you. In real life most people, given the space and privacy to be honest, are thinking wtf in my experience.

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