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This Morning and Katie Yeomans

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TheGodmother · 20/03/2019 09:09

Have a look at the comments on their Facebook page! Trans peak?

www.facebook.com/81985202121/posts/10157319027642122?sfns=mo

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zanahoria · 20/03/2019 11:42

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EcclesThePeacock · 20/03/2019 11:34
  • This is a deliberate misrepresentation of the act.

People are protected from being discriminated against for undergoing gender reassignment ie being refused service, employment, housing etc.

They are misrepresenting the EA2010 once you get into ‘misgendering’ other things come into play like other people’s beliefs and right to free speech etc.*

Discrimination would be if Katie hadn't been allowed a train ticket.

nicenewdusters · 20/03/2019 11:29

Only managed to watch the last few minutes. Schofield desperately signalling his LGBTQ credentials. Holly doing lots of womanly smiling. I'd like to advise Katie that if they want to be accepted as a "real" woman to stop dressing like a man's idea of a woman - ie high red shoes, no tights, very short skirt etc - that's what they had on today.

A man is genetically a man, so will generally have larger hands, an adam's apple, a more masculine shaped face, etc etc. No amount of dressing like Joan Collins disguises that, it actually just accentuates it.

I guess it must be distressing to have to face the reality that, despite how you dress (and maybe surgery, don't know if Katie's had that?) you still look like the sex you were born as. Your brightly coloured scarf can't change the evidence of people's brains and eyes. It might be sad, disappointing, annoying - but not being validated by other people who are only telling the truth is not a criminal offence.

RepealTheGRA · 20/03/2019 11:29

The public on Facebook had REALLY had enough.

Motherofcreek · 20/03/2019 11:21

Finally looks like the public is starting to take notice now.

MsTiggywinkletoyou · 20/03/2019 11:18

Pink as a gender marker. What could go wrong.

Don't tell those who wear "hunting pinks".

princessTiasmum · 20/03/2019 11:13

Sick of hearing about this stuff, she still looks like a man fgs

RockyFlintstone · 20/03/2019 11:13

Yes RepealTheGRA that was my understanding too.

RepealTheGRA · 20/03/2019 11:09

RockyFlintstone

Gender Reassignment is protected under the Equality Act. As is Sex and belief.

It says fuck all about ‘misgendering’.

This is a deliberate misrepresentation of the act.

People are protected from being discriminated against for undergoing gender reassignment ie being refused service, employment, housing etc.

They are misrepresenting the EA2010 once you get into ‘misgendering’ other things come into play like other people’s beliefs and right to free speech etc.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 20/03/2019 11:07

It's all about validation and forcing compliance.

kenandbarbie · 20/03/2019 11:04

I could see they'd have a bit more of a point if it was the same guard, but it was two different guards.

RockyFlintstone · 20/03/2019 11:02

Are they right about 2010 act?

They said that misgendering isn't allowed under the Equality Act (and would therefore be illegal) because trans people are protected against discrimination under the EA.

That isn't correct is it?

kenandbarbie · 20/03/2019 11:02

She said that the guard calling her sir was an offense under 2010 equality act

RepealTheGRA · 20/03/2019 11:01

Are they right about 2010 act?

What did they say about it? I couldn’t put myself through watching This Morning.

R0wantrees · 20/03/2019 10:56

for context, Katie Yeomans discussing transition process.

2014 Went to a fancy dress party and 'dressed up as a girl for a laugh', 'never dressed before' had some nice comments, thought about how 'nice' it was, a few weeks later saw GP who referred to Gender Identity clinic!
Hmm

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=50&v=m9Jvq2nMa8Y

NoseringGirl · 20/03/2019 10:51

I wasn't expecting Phil to take that position, even though he did go to great lengths to prove he was an ally. He's usually more on side than he was in that interview. Katie actually seemed more reasonable and balanced by the end of the interview to be fair to her.

kenandbarbie · 20/03/2019 10:50

Oh dear, I think the comments will upset them more, judging by Facebook!

It is frustrating, do they really think people can only tell what sex someone is by what colour scarf they have on?!

Are they right about 2010 act?

DodoPatrol · 20/03/2019 10:49

The rail staff can't win, really. The chances of getting socked one if they call an ordinary boring long-haired man 'miss' or 'ma'am' are probably quite high too.

They are going to need to call everyone something neutral like 'customer' or 'chum' (and deeply offend my mother who bristles to her full 4 ft 10'' if someone fails to call her madam).

CaptainMarvelBunting · 20/03/2019 10:46

That was interesting from Phil, who seemed to have a spark of understanding that it's not just about allowing 'honest mistakes' but that it's also allowing for complete disagreement.

NoseringGirl · 20/03/2019 10:45

Absolutely agree Rocky. Trans people will also be the ones that suffer from this, there are some that are making the effort to push back against the unreasonable TRAs and I fully support them in that. They have the right to go about their lives peacefully.

RockyFlintstone · 20/03/2019 10:45

Oh God, they are apparently reading out comments on this later. I wonder if that will actually happen.

RockyFlintstone · 20/03/2019 10:44

Misgendering is NOT discrimination, its just telling the truth!

Phil is peaking...Shock

RockyFlintstone · 20/03/2019 10:43

This will peak trans more people.

I really do feel so sorry for the transsexuals who have been living their lives the best they can and under the radar for years.

NoseringGirl · 20/03/2019 10:42

"It's not about the compensation"
Nah it's about getting on telly and being validated.

CaptainMarvelBunting · 20/03/2019 10:42

*Farrow