This Morning and Katie Yeomans

I looked at this person's Facebook profile. I don't know if that's allowed or not... but it's clear that being female is a very sexual thing for them. Short skirts and high heels. It saddens me that this is what being female is apparently reduced to, and enforces that for a lot of trans individuals it is definitely based on a male vision of womanhood.

It's funny, I think the thing which is making me most cross about this particular case is when you listen to what KY says the employees KY spoke to actually did, they are described as being polite and going their jobs, in situations that sounded either stressful or routine. When I deal with people at work, I have a job to do in a short space of time, and my remit is to be polite, helpful and efficient, which is what these men are described as being, even by KY.

KY's frankly appalling ego thinks that it's right to punish them (The internal procedures alone would have caused considerable stress) for not giving KY the extra special attention that would be necessary to discern that a clearly male individual with long hair was wearing blush pink to indicate their fluttery inner sense of feminine mystique.

I very much doubt the employees are paid enough to demand that kind of attention.

I've just watched the clip.

There's no need to comment really. The facts shout loudly for themselves and 99% of people will have the same, obvious response. Katie is making the GC argument for us.

It is interesting to watch woke cookie guzzling Phil Schofield squirming on the horns of this thorny dilemma. Which to side with - basic common sense or disingenuous virtue signalling?? And also notable, after Ruth Langsford's sadface lie to Posie ('we didn't get ANY tweets or emails that supported you') that this time they decided they couldn't brush the vast landslide of GC comments under the carpet and so ignored them altogether.

How are the general public supposed to not only read someone's mind as to how they identify at that moment in time, but also prioritise getting someone's validation right over a lifetime of ingrained normal language shared meaning which has become automatic, probably when they're busy doing 97 other things at work?

Totally unreasonable demand on others. As usual it separates the world into those who must provide and those who must be provided for, correctly, right now, or God help them because they'll be punished.

Katie actually means that not being automatically perceived as a woman by a random stranger in the street is devastating to Katie's self belief in Katie being a woman. And Katie needs to work with Katie's therapist on dealing with the harsh sides of reality here, because Katie does not have that control over other people's minds and needs to face the realities of Katie's situation as a transwoman.

Frankly the more the kicking off and howling happens when someone, probably well intentioned, accidentally fails to please makes me less and less inclined to bother trying.

My almost 80 year old dad loves a pink shirt too R0 and also has a lovely pink jumper that really suits him - do I need to call him ma'am now?

I am rather tall and broad-shouldered. I was once addressed as sir by someone from London Transport, so I guess I should sue.

The biggest problem Katie has in these scenarios is that her voice will have already set the tone of the conversation in regards to him/her. Many in customer facing roles will respond to questions with no eye contact at all. I have a deepish voice and have been misgendered lots of times.

Hah, Garth!

I had my uterus evicted several years ago for anti-social behaviour but there is no way I am giving up my vagina.

My dear Dad who is very much a blokey-chap favours a pink shirt. I suspect he has more pink in his wardrobe than I do!

I don't think I own pink anything. I guess I'm not a woman, then I don't think I could even identify blush pink in a line up. Should I hand back my vagina now?

Anyone who thinks what colour you’re wearing denotes whether you’re male or female is the worst kind of chauvinist, and a liar.

I don't think I own pink anything. I guess I'm not a woman, then.

I think bloody KY should be reported to the police for rank misogyny - assuming that wearing 'blush pink' signifies 'woman' is so fucking outrageously offensive to me. No

It really is rank misogyny yet so many appear to be so dazzled by the brave and stunning that they can't see it.

Oh those comments on FB have restored my faith in humanity. My favourite was "Let it go to court. The DNA evidence will sort it out" :) It's INSANE that someone correctly sexing someone else should be compelled to retract that truth, pay compensation or be interviewed by police. Even if you did accidentally mis-sex someone, so what? No-one died. How many women have been called Mr on letters etc? Hundreds of thousands.

I think bloody KY should be reported to the police for rank misogyny - assuming that wearing 'blush pink' signifies 'woman' is so fucking outrageously offensive to me. No, shedding your uterine lining every month (between the ages of 10ish and 50ish) and having a range of primary and secondary female sexual characteristics (breasts, ovaries, vagina, the hormone profile of a female etc) signifies woman. This is SO offensive to actual women. Now where's my 2500 pounds?

True. But whoever does this runs the risk of trial by Twitter with all that that entails. Not everyone has the stomach for it.

People with a GRC can still be excluded from single sex places if people bother to read and apply the law correctly.

amount of money

Thanks GR. Holy shit.

Bless her for her candour, usually there's much more rewriting of history involved.

Fuck that. Someone who wants a substantial someone of money for being called by their correct sex is a stranger to candour.

Can someone remind me, as the law currently stands does a GRC mean your sex is changed on record? I'm thinking it doesn't but could be wrong.

With a GRC you can change your birth certificate to reflect your new, fictional sex. You do not need a GRC to change many other records, including driving license, passport, bank details, etc.

Can someone remind me, as the law currently stands does a GRC mean your sex is changed on record? I'm thinking it doesn't but could be wrong.

We're having friends over this weekend and once I'm a bit pissed as I'm not brave enough otherwise am going to bring this debate up over the cheese board. I want to have my facts 100%.

I don't think the vast population is gender critical

yup

I think many (most?) people believe in lady brane, they just think only the cunty type of women can have one

They may have been ignorant of it, but FB and twitter comments outside of a TRA bubble have always been overwhelmingly GC.

I don't think the vast population is gender critical - they might not believe you can change sex but my impression is that most people ascribe to gender and the stereotypes associated with it. Just not gender identity, perhaps.

I do worry that this sort of thing the Facebook reaction of 'that's a man/ shoulda sued the surgeon/ clearly a dude/ Adam's apple is a giveaway' is fuel for the activists calling for earlier medication of children for better aesthetic outcome.

Katie's been pretty clear that she (realised she'd been a woman all along?) in her sixties at a fancy dress party so I'm not sure this case would help their argument much. Bless her for her candour, usually there's much more rewriting of history involved.

It's all about validation and forcing compliance.

It really is.

IT'S MA'AM!!!!! all over again but in a British stylie...right down to the I was wearing pink!!!!!.