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Matt Lucas thinks 5 year olds can change sex

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Bluestitch · 19/03/2019 00:05

He's just been congratulating Sam Smith for coming out as 'non binary' and joined the debate.

mobile.twitter.com/RealMattLucas/status/1107639963733114880

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Kettleon80 · 21/03/2019 12:02

Matt

You were too busy thinking about how virtuous you looked, rather than thinking that it might be a good idea to conduct some background research on a cause you were putting your name to, arrogantly thinking it was a simple case of siding with a 'persecuted' minority.

2019StandingforWomen · 21/03/2019 11:58

What an idiot. Dear me these gay men are massively disappointing aren't they?

Also why is there an advert popping up for All gay cruises when I type this? Anyone else getting this? Hardly relevant to most of mumsnet I wouldn't think.

Katvonmythicbiowoman · 21/03/2019 11:53

Matt.
You signed a letter written and pushed by a massive woman hating knob.

Sigh.

Matt Lucas thinks 5 year olds can change sex
Cloven · 21/03/2019 04:16

I was annoyed because the Emily Howard character demonstrated that Lucas isn't naive to the dynamics that are driving this bullshit. He understands AGPs.

But I read this interview and i think I get it now. I get the impression he's come under a lot of pressure from other gay guys to recant his heresies and he doesn't want fuss and controversy any more. Seems like he's blunted his brain and his critical thinking skills to fit in.

www.bigissue.com/interviews/letter-to-my-younger-self/matt-lucas-little-britain-cruel/

AtrociousCircumstance · 20/03/2019 23:51

Trans-ing kids is child abuse.

Matt Lucas is on board with child abuse.

abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 20/03/2019 23:48

I find it utterly hypocritical. Matt Lucas in this Little Britain sketch was clearly showing how transwomen fetishize womanhood with their dropping handkerchiefs and exaggeratedly feminine clothes etc, whilst maintaining a very masculine body and socialisation. Lucas saw the humour in it because it reflected an exaggerated version of reality. It's clear that in the current climate he's worried his career will suffer because of this, and so is doing damage limitation 'oh I don't really know much about this, but sign me up'. I'm sure he'd know if he was sleeping with a man with a vag, it's so fucking fake and McCarthyite. I've always been fond of Matt Lucas, now I just think he's a misogynist with no backbone.

Katvonmythicbiowoman · 20/03/2019 22:46

That sketch is such a mind blast now

Katvonmythicbiowoman · 20/03/2019 22:45

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=INj6HPuKJnk

What can I say?

BlackForestCake · 19/03/2019 19:00

Also the way the BBC is reporting the Sam Smith story is ridiculous.

There's a picture of a man and the story is that the man says he isn't a man. And this nonsense is taken as fact.

rocketromano · 19/03/2019 18:59

I agree that he’s just trying to avoid too much flack for the ‘I’m a laydeee’ stuff from little Britain
And of course he has no interest in listening to women Hmm

BlackForestCake · 19/03/2019 18:57

When I was 7 I thought I could go to the same school as the characters I read about in books.

Children cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality.

Why do we deny kids the agency to smoke or get tattooed?

Callmejudith · 19/03/2019 15:21

He's now signed the GwiththeT bullshit letter

I am fucked off today

Notwotuknow · 19/03/2019 13:54

*he

Notwotuknow · 19/03/2019 13:54

Can't say I'm surprised. I always thought it was an idiot, so now he's just confirmed it.

hoodathunkit · 19/03/2019 13:52

I'm posting and running but am not precious about the idea if someone else is good at letter writing and has free time now.

If not I can draft something up and post it here as soon as I can.

Let's do this thing

RepealTheGRA · 19/03/2019 13:48

I wonder whether it might be an idea to write an open letter / mums net post to all those who supported the PIE in the 80s and who have recently been embarrassed and shamed by their associations, asking whether they have learned their lesson and are going to stand up to stop children being exploited this time round?

That’s the best idea I’ve heard yet.

RockyFlintstone · 19/03/2019 13:47

I can't see (what I assume are) Tatchell's tweets in most of that exchange, it says they are unavailable so it looks like they have been deleted.

I have seen that letter before but I am still fucking AGOG at it every time I read it and cannot see how he hasn't been absolutely crucified for it.

hoodathunkit · 19/03/2019 13:38

interesting and relevant twitter exchange between Matt Lucas, Peter Tatchell and Jane Doe in 2017

twitter.com/PeterTatchell/status/930730877847506944

The final reply (I had to click to see it) is extremely interesting

I wonder whether it might be an idea to write an open letter / mums net post to all those who supported the PIE in the 80s and who have recently been embarrassed and shamed by their associations, asking whether they have learned their lesson and are going to stand up to stop children being exploited this time round?

Katvonmythicbiowoman · 19/03/2019 13:22

He's always played with gender roles. Surely he of all people knows that for the vast majority this isn't being trangender?

Katvonmythicbiowoman · 19/03/2019 13:21

Just saw that. I don't think he really knows what he's doing. Sad.

Matt Lucas thinks 5 year olds can change sex
Matt Lucas thinks 5 year olds can change sex
MNSDKHheroines · 19/03/2019 13:20

He's atoning for trans jokes in Little Britain.

McTufty · 19/03/2019 13:16

Oh I see he’s added his name to the Anthony Watson letter. Seems he’s just another misogynist after all Sad

nicenewdusters · 19/03/2019 11:57

Oh great, another rainbow warrior with his head stuck up his arse. Perhaps he and Sam (I'm neither a man or a woman) Smith can go for a drink, and Sam can see his bravery and stunningness reflected in Matt's shiny bald head.

What must your life be when your next option is to laze around wondering whether you are male or female. I'll tell you for a tenner.

RockyFlintstone · 19/03/2019 09:59

This insanity in which young children are attributed with the maturity and agency to determine their gender is so very similar to the narrative promoted by the Paedophile Information Exchange in the 1980s.

Exactly.

There are logical but very sinister places to go from the idea that young children are mature enough to make lifelong decisions about their own bodies and that 'children know what they want'.

Places that I'm sure Matt Lucas and people like him definitely do not want to go.