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Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'

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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 17/03/2019 22:53

...and defends the Mermaids jelly baby scale. I'm so pissed off at people like this who have apparently done zero research and yet are happy to put their woke two cents in whilst also casually using misogynistic slurs. How can they not see how utterly sexist it all is? How is calling other women by a derogatory slur at all productive? How is using gender stereotypes in any way helpful? How about if we used them for race? Where would you fit on the race scale? Do you like eating watermelon and ribs or do you have a good sense of rhythm? Then you're more at the black end of the scale. No no no no no. The stereotypes are the problem, we don't need to work with the stereotypes we've got and be told to pick a place on the scale, we need to escape them altogether. FFS.

Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
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hipsterfun · 19/03/2019 01:28

John Oliver. He's so bloody sanctimonious in his rightness. The episode where he completely dismissed the worries of girls and women

While this lot may not all have been born into mega-privilege, neither does it seem likely they’ve suffered a great deal of vulnerability as a result of violence, abuse, poverty etc. so there’s a superficiality to their positions on social issues; this and the top-university confidence in being clever and right all the time probably accounts for the sanctimony.

abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 18/03/2019 23:37

MotherForkinShirtBalls When I first saw that I went along with it through the kind of 'John Oliver is someone I agree with on most things so he must also be right on this' kind of mentality. This was before I started seeing all the aggressive stuff on social media and peaked. I'm now just really annoyed by comedians like him, because they have a lot of responsibility yet what they present is so one-sided.

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OrchidInTheSun · 18/03/2019 23:33

I didn't know all that about Brigstocke so I googled. He's getting married to Rachel Parris Sad (because I like her)

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 18/03/2019 23:28

abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise, I'm so glad I'm not the only one disappointed by John Oliver. He's so bloody sanctimonious in his rightness. The episode where he completely dismissed the worries of girls and women over the ACLU (title 9?) Court case on bathroom access was the last time I bothered watching.

beagadorsrock · 18/03/2019 23:04

I mean, to the ENBYS. But not entirely lefty-goodie

beagadorsrock · 18/03/2019 22:59

Since we're mentioning all the comedians , here's Matt Lucas being sympathetic. Probably enough to sign a letter.

Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
WokerThanWoke · 18/03/2019 22:52

And then got cross with the Mail for running the story.

hipsterfun · 18/03/2019 22:51

IIRC he also cheated on his wife and left her and his young family for the odious Hayley Tamaddon.

I wasn’t going to bring that up but since you mention it... Classy. Really classy, Marcus.

LassOfFyvie · 18/03/2019 22:44

anyone who says anything rude about Owen Jones... can't be all bad

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 18/03/2019 22:43

I’m not sorry he was standing behind me as I was telling someone how irritating and smug I thought he was on the radio. Indeed feel guilty for a while but I feel much better now (and in RL he has a smuggery face too).

LassOfFyvie · 18/03/2019 22:40

Brigstocke's seriesThe Brig Society, which began in 2013, was described by theDaily Telegraphas "imbecilic", "patronising", "smug" and "self righteous" and the product of “noxious lefty bias.”

^ From his wiki page. Giles Wembley-Hogg goes forth was even worse.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 18/03/2019 21:07

It would be a fascinating to have trans ideology as a subject on The Unbelievable Truth

LOL.

I’ve only popped up on here to say I loathe Brigstocke; he has ALWAYS come across as the guy at uni who’s all like “hey girls I’m a feminist and a nice guy” who’d hang onto you just that bit too long in a hug.

IIRC he also cheated on his wife and left her and his young family for the odious Hayley Tamaddon.

Good to know he’s fond of kool aid though, I can legit hate on him more. As you were, all.

abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 18/03/2019 20:55

I didn't know it was on Facebook before.

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StephsCaddy · 18/03/2019 20:53

The mash report was great on Facebook but did not translate well to TV. it was utter shite.

Cliques · 18/03/2019 20:52

And again on IWD

Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 18/03/2019 20:49

Nish Kumar strikes me as the kind of person who has whatever opinions are going to make him most money from his target audience, so even though he can be quite funny, I always find his humour going for obvious easy targets. I thought the Mash Report got a bit pantomime - sexists Boooo!, Trump - Hisssss! I back Ricky!

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Cliques · 18/03/2019 20:49

He tweeted it last year sometime. I was surprised too.

Deliriumoftheendless · 18/03/2019 20:43

When has Richard Herring said that? I’m a bit surprised.

abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 18/03/2019 20:42

I'm sure I can't be the first one to compare Josie Long to this character: I tried to like her before, in a 'I'm left-wing therefore this is what I'm supposed to like' kind of way, but thought it was all a bit wet. At least all this TRA shite has got me listening to my own instincts a bit more, I suppose...

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Cliques · 18/03/2019 20:39

I went to see Nish Kumar recently and he did a whole segment about how monstrous Ricky Gervais was for attacking trans people, and how appalling it was to be scared of them since there are only about 12 transsexuals in the UK anyway.

I was so disappointed. I’m a huge comedy fan. First disappointment was that up until then, Nish had been a huge fan of Gervais’s (I don’t like Gervais), second that Nish (who I adore) clearly hasn’t listened to any of the concerns at all and thinks that trans still just means old-style transsexuals. The audience was pretty quiet for that rant compared to the rest of it.

Richard Herring has stated he thinks trans women are women but also that he believes other people don’t have to agree with him (which is something).

I was going to book tickets to go and see Josie Long this year. I like her gentle style of comedy, but I’m not going to now. It’s a shame. I know she won’t care, but it hurts me that people don’t give a shit about what it means to give away my bodily autonomy.

I wish more critical thinking was applied. I know there was a time when I thought it was all about transsexuals, and I couldn’t see what the issue was, so I know minds can change. I’m a leftie, comedy-loving, woman, who believes everyone is perfectly equal, but that doesn’t really matter anymore. I’m just a TERF because I can’t make it possible for anyone to change sex.

LassOfFyvie · 18/03/2019 20:25

I am going to see Josie Long and Grace Petrie this week

Grace Petrie is insufferable too.

LassOfFyvie · 18/03/2019 20:21

Yes, me too. Tho' I don't want to perpetuate that tired old cliche that women can't be funny

Josie Long simply proves that there is truth in cliches.

Oh and look Josie and Jonny are having a baby-how utterly tedious.

www.theguardian.com/stage/2018/apr/15/josie-long-and-jonny-donahoe-having-a-baby.

Doobigetta · 18/03/2019 19:41

Not at all surprised about Long, I’ve always thought she was insufferably smug and not funny.

hipsterfun · 18/03/2019 19:06

Mitchell is one of the many silent.

Which is his right, of course.

But it’s notable that he’s somewhat selective in applying his trademark no-nonsense scoffery.

Refiling under ‘complacent’ for the time being.

cattycattycat · 18/03/2019 16:34

Oh this is so depressing as I do like her comedy. Thankfully I don't have to agree with everything she says.

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