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Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'

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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 17/03/2019 22:53

...and defends the Mermaids jelly baby scale. I'm so pissed off at people like this who have apparently done zero research and yet are happy to put their woke two cents in whilst also casually using misogynistic slurs. How can they not see how utterly sexist it all is? How is calling other women by a derogatory slur at all productive? How is using gender stereotypes in any way helpful? How about if we used them for race? Where would you fit on the race scale? Do you like eating watermelon and ribs or do you have a good sense of rhythm? Then you're more at the black end of the scale. No no no no no. The stereotypes are the problem, we don't need to work with the stereotypes we've got and be told to pick a place on the scale, we need to escape them altogether. FFS.

Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 19/03/2019 12:52

Starts a thread showing disappointment at the SJW stance of comedians around trans issues, gets accused of holding up a satirical SJW account as 'a beacon of hope' - just muttering to myself, don't mind me...

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ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 19/03/2019 12:01

I thought it was possibly because he emphasised the " just want to pee" toilet angle in a town where a court case involving a transwomen sexually assaulting a child a child in a supermarket toilet was pending

It's very easy to say it never happens when you aren't ever going to be the one targeted, and you ignore all of the evidence to say it happens.

Not knowing what's going on is not a good look for someone on a "The Daily Show" type news/comedy show, though.

wigglybeezer · 19/03/2019 12:00

TheMagicFupa I thought about it but I don't do Twitter and this was weeks ago now, I couldn't remember all the facts of the case at the time so wasn't sure if I was remembering it correctly ( it's been back in the papers this week as it's come to court, hence me getting belatedly annoyed again).

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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 19/03/2019 11:59

But carry on holding up fictional satirists as beacons of hope hun
WTF does this even mean? I haven't even mentioned Jonathan Pie at all, who's been around for a few years and I presume by now everyone knows is a parody, which to most would have been obvious upon the first instance of watching of his channel anyway (he's quite funny, but not that good an actor). In response to someone else mentioning Titania McGrath I commented 'Good point! Titania McGrath is the only one who speaks the truth! :D' - which you appear to have taken literally. If I thought it was a real person, how would I therefore know it was comedy, I'd surely just think it was an annoying SJW? The avatar is a CGI generated image of a woman - are you suggesting that I thought that was a real photo too? If so, how are you getting this idea from what I said? And just because yes, I am that pedantic, here's a screenshot of my search history from 9th March where I read an article about Titania McGrath in 'Unherd' magazine. You seem to think you can sidestep being initially patronising by being even more patronising and calling me 'hun' in a sexist manner, whether you have a vag or not. I'd suggest the problem lies in your ability to read and patronising attitude towards women rather than anyone else's ability to detect satire. Is it because Titania McGrath is 'your thing' and you can't stand the thought of anyone else liking it? Fucksake...

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Halfeatentoast · 19/03/2019 11:48

Urgh and that Marcus twat too.

Halfeatentoast · 19/03/2019 11:47

Josie has been an outspoken atheist that pats herself on the back for not believing in god (and in a very grating aren't I amazing manner). Then she believes this shite.

Idiot.

TheMagicFupa · 19/03/2019 11:39

wigglybeezer I also went to see Nish Kumar recently and noticed a very muted response from the audience to his anti Ricki Gervais speech, I thought it was possibly because he emphasised the " just want to pee" toilet angle in a town where a court case involving a transwomen sexually assaulting a child a child in a supermarket toilet was pending

Wow... Yet again I am speechless and furious.
Has anyone mentioned this to him on Twitter? (Sorry for asking instead of checking myself, but Twitter is blocked on my computer Smile ) If they have, what was his response?

Sometimes this stuff brings out the worst in me. Sometimes I look forward to the moment when society finally agrees that this is nonsense, and we all turn and look at Brigstocke and Kumar... Sorry, that's an ugly way to feel, but they'll have deserved it.

Gone2far · 19/03/2019 11:29

Yes, thanks for letting us know that Jonathan Pie was a fictional character. Hmm. And I actually think that they are useful antidotes to left wing woke comedians. It's just a shame that jp hasn't got the balls to discuss this.

snoutandab0ut · 19/03/2019 11:23

abuse 😂😂😂😂 is that the best you can come up with? Sorry to disappoint you, but I’ve got a vagina. The kind that you’re born with. But carry on holding up fictional satirists as beacons of hope hun

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 19/03/2019 11:20

I know @OrchidInTheSun

I know.

What she sees in that rectangle headed cheating twatbag I just don’t get it.

(secretly want her and Nish to get together but that’s me being tragic).

hipsterfun · 19/03/2019 11:19

The irony of a former fat lad and a fat lad making misogynist fun of women’s bodies.

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 19/03/2019 10:26

Marcus Brigstocke doesn't like women very much. I remember him and Phill jupitus giggling like school boys calling overweight older women's stomachs gunts, a cross between a gut and a cunt.

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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 19/03/2019 09:57

itsbetterthanabox Just had a watch. It's good that he's poking fun at the left, but he's still very 'calm down dear' about trans stuff. They never tackle the 'punch a Terf/burn terfs to death' stuff do they? Don't want to acknowledge the violence and threats against women, only the poor little wittle trans women's hurty feels because the bigots who won't let them get their pee pees out in the same room as them.

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itsbetterthanabox · 19/03/2019 09:44

@abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise
For a comedian who is talking about it try Fin Taylor.
Wish there were women but everyone is scared of the trans lobby.

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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 19/03/2019 09:27

Cliques Yes, it's all these blokes chiming in with their 'calm down dear' that's pissing me off - Nish, John Oliver and now Matt Lucas. Because they have nothing to lose and everything to gain - they can look sympathetic whilst palming off men whose gender identity they don't want to deal with as an aspect of their own male sex class.

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Cliques · 19/03/2019 09:10

Wiggly, Jesus, what a complete lack of awareness. I didn’t see much of the Mash Report, I listen to a lot of comedy podcasts instead, and that’s where I knew Nish from mostly. It was the absolute certainty that people are being kneejerk ‘phobes from someone who has not done the research into it and has nothing to lose from being wrong, that really struck me.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 19/03/2019 09:05

And the ‘comedy terrorist’ was neither comedic nor a terrorist.

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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 19/03/2019 08:32

snoutandab0ut PS did you know that Borat is also not a real man from Kazakhstan, but an actor called Sacha Baron Cohen? And when he appears in your living room he's not really a tiny man who lives in a little glowing box, he's actually appearing on something called a television.

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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 19/03/2019 08:29

snoutandab0ut hahahaha, erm, yeah we know. Titania McGrath is the creation of Andrew Doyle who co-writes Jonathan Pie's stuff. But thanks for letting everyone know that you have the skills to search on the internet for a name and assume that we cannot with our ladyfingers. You a bloke by any chance?

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wigglybeezer · 19/03/2019 08:11

@Cliques I also went to see Nish Kumar recently and noticed a very muted response from the audience to his anti Ricki Gervais speech, I thought it was possibly because he emphasised the " just want to pee" toilet angle in a town where a court case involving a transwomen sexually assaulting a child a child in a supermarket toilet was pending, interesting that you noticed it too. He made a lot of assumptions and remarks about his audience all being Guardian readers which did not really work in Fife, I enjoyed some of his show but was disappointed...
I have also got fed up with John Oliver, he comes across as hectoring these days...

snoutandab0ut · 19/03/2019 07:52

Just FYI for people mentioning Jonathan Pie and Titania McGrath. They’re both characters created by the same male comedian. They’re not real people

ChattyLion · 19/03/2019 07:14

How strange for a new mother to be so adamant about all this utter bollocks. At a time in your life when the reality of your female reproductive body is so all-consuming.

Long clearly knows who is male and who is female and what sexism is. Apparently she worries about how sexism might affect her career after she’s had a baby.

Maybe this is her way of allying herself with men then- by joining ‘em, because she feels right now she can’t beat ‘em?

Maybe it seems like good way to signal this by applying a sexist term of abuse to other women just because they have disagreed with men?. Hmm Er, about what a woman is. Hmm

Long complained in the Guardian about the ‘“unhelpful, unscientific or deep-rooted in sexist bullshit” myths surrounding pregnancy.’ i have every sympathy for her on that and totally agree- so hopefully now she’s had her baby she’ll realise her career isn’t dead at all just because she’s become a working mother.

then she’ll realise how daft this whole agenda is, ask a few questions to test that and very quickly see what she’s actually supporting. and maybe then she will write a show about that. Otherwise this position just seems like a sad kind of fearful self-policing.

www.theguardian.com/stage/2018/apr/15/josie-long-and-jonny-donahoe-having-a-baby

Gone2far · 19/03/2019 06:32

Daily Mash is brilliant on fb. And bloody awful on TV. Almost as though it's written by utterly different teams.
I've only ever seen Nish Kumar on Question Time, where he just came across as an archetypal smug left wing comedian.

hipsterfun · 19/03/2019 01:40

And imo John Oliver is on a Ben Elton trajectory.

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