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Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'

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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 17/03/2019 22:53

...and defends the Mermaids jelly baby scale. I'm so pissed off at people like this who have apparently done zero research and yet are happy to put their woke two cents in whilst also casually using misogynistic slurs. How can they not see how utterly sexist it all is? How is calling other women by a derogatory slur at all productive? How is using gender stereotypes in any way helpful? How about if we used them for race? Where would you fit on the race scale? Do you like eating watermelon and ribs or do you have a good sense of rhythm? Then you're more at the black end of the scale. No no no no no. The stereotypes are the problem, we don't need to work with the stereotypes we've got and be told to pick a place on the scale, we need to escape them altogether. FFS.

Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
Josie Long refers to women as 'terfs'
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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 19/03/2019 23:24

There's more..."The ONLY version of feminism that feels dogmatic and unnatural is how strictly transphobes police what women are supposed to be. The constant chat about who looks and dresses wrong. Who is a permissible cis woman, lesbian woman, trans woman, FUCK OFF." - sounds like she approves of cotton ceiling rhetoric, then.

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Bezalelle · 19/03/2019 23:18

She literally sounds like a programmed bot.

abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 19/03/2019 23:16

Josie's tweeted "Just again for the record so you can unfollow me if you choose: I support self ID, I trust and support trans people, trans women are women, trans men are men, I am very happy to be called cis, I am literally a cisgender woman."

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abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 19/03/2019 21:59

I imagine Matt Lucas is doing damage limitation for the transvestite Little Britain characters, after seeing how the hoards came after Glinner for his transwoman episode of the IT crowd.

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IfNotNowThenWhy · 19/03/2019 21:43

But...non binary is meaningless and everybody is either male or female!
So whoever Richard Osman is, he has no excuse for being so dim.
I just have no respect for anyone who can learn even a little bit about what the genderist lobby are pushing for (Mermaids, transing children, cheating at sports, believing in obvious lies )and not see how insane it is.

McTufty · 19/03/2019 20:48

In fairness to Richard Osman he liked one of Matt Lucas’ tweets about non binary people not necessarily being male or female and this all being new to him. Doesn’t mean he thinks TWAW, women are bigots and celebrates the defunding of rape centres in Vancouver etc.

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EcclesThePeacock · 19/03/2019 19:51

I've heard a comedian on R4 being rude about OJ. Can't remember what, it was a throwaway remark but it got a good laugh.

ScipioAfricanus · 19/03/2019 19:46

Sorry, ‘not to be rude about Owen Jones’ is what I meant to type.

ScipioAfricanus · 19/03/2019 19:45

How is it even possible for anyone, left or right wing, not to be rude about Owen Jones?!

DodoPatrol · 19/03/2019 19:44

If people are rude to and about Owen Jones it's a real red flag for me

Thought she was Labour? Surely the red flag is a good thing?

ScipioAfricanus · 19/03/2019 19:43

Yes, I’d always imagined she was about 10 years younger than me based on her style and comments. Apparently not.

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 19/03/2019 19:41

Good heavens

Josie reminds me of me when I was 20, heavily involved with the SWP and basically a twat.

I’m the same age as she is now and it seems only one of us moved on from “Socialism 2001 at Alexandra Palace”.

NeurotrashWarrior · 19/03/2019 19:40

I now believe that there's two eras.

PPT - Pre peak trans

PTNR - peak trans no return

Comedians who are PPT are still operating in a blissful land of ignorance where there are neat binaries of politics and newspapers but genders are fluid and fancy. So they get wind of trends and pick the sides that match their neat work political persona.

Those that are PTNR are generally cleverer and realise that sex is binary, politics and newspapers are fluid and gender is divisive bollocks. But might sit on the fence a bit if they care too much.

abuseofpowercomesasnosurprise · 19/03/2019 19:25

Owen Jones appears to be some sort of infallible papal figure for her. As with most religions, Jonesism is patriarchal.

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TheMagicFupa · 19/03/2019 18:59

Josie Long has now tweeted - "If people are rude to and about Owen Jones it's a real red flag for me."

Wow, Josie - that's some way to pick sides. I could respect her while disagreeing with her, but siding with this furious little misogynist changes things completely for me.

hipsterfun · 19/03/2019 17:58

Probably.

hipsterfun · 19/03/2019 17:57

Sorry to say it, but the answer is ‘most of them’.

CaptainMarvelBunting · 19/03/2019 17:54

FFS. How many more people in the public eye whom I like and enjoy am I now going to think "Knob" whenever I see them now?

IfNotNowThenWhy · 19/03/2019 17:39

My theory is that men get on board with TWAW because TW freak them out and they don't want them in mens spaces.
It's also very mysoginistic, all this believing that a woman can be the same as an altered male (wether altered surgically or with falsies and a wig).It's almost as if they don't think women are really a whole actual sex of human.
And I like Richard Herring but he DOESN'T beleive TWAW. It just doesn't affect him if the "non-nen" go in with the women so it's an easy lefty win without them having to lose anything. Josie Long is just an idiot sadly.
I miss Victoria Wood. And Sue Townshend. I wish they had lived long enough to satirise this-I feel almost 100% that they would have been able to dismantle all this lunacy in minutes.

BertrandRussell · 19/03/2019 16:41

Sorry- RO liked Matt Lucas’ tweet.

And James O’Brian is thoughtful and nuanced about the subject in his book.

AssassinatedBeauty · 19/03/2019 16:20

They know that transwomen are not like women though... just ask them if they would have a physical sexual relationship with a transwoman especially one who hadn't had any surgery. See how many of these woke dudes could say a convincing yes, to agree that there is such a thing as a female penis, that they would be happy to have "heterosexual" sex with.

They are in a privileged position where they can throw women under the bus and chant TWAW, because it doesn't affect them. They are misogynists and have no care for women, when it comes down to it.

CaptainMarvelBunting · 19/03/2019 16:14

Oh please, not Richard Osman. I can't believe a man with that sharp a wit would be one of the dullards who hold to TWAW.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 19/03/2019 16:11

Richard Osman is a TWAWer

where did you get that from??

Richard Herring is a TWAW-er, but Osman has always struck me as having more than a nodding acquaintance with reality

BertrandRussell · 19/03/2019 16:02

Well, i’ve discovered 2 things today. Richard Osman is a TWAWer- and James O’Brian is much less sure about it than he has appeared in the past. Who’d a thunk?

ChattyLion · 19/03/2019 13:07

Marcus Brigstocke doesn't like women very much. I remember him and Phill jupitus giggling like school boys calling overweight older women's stomachs gunts, a cross between a gut and a cunt.

This speaks volumes. They must hate women.

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