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All kicking off at Primark!

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DointItForTheKids · 17/03/2019 15:01

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6819195/Primark-sparks-changing-room-row.html

As the (currently) one poster comments, 'ridiculous'.

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Knicknackpaddyflak · 17/03/2019 17:12

And how lovely you're not affected. May I introduce you to this concept of other people?

Knicknackpaddyflak · 17/03/2019 17:11

Staggering the number of new people around today saying 'nothing to look at here'.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 17/03/2019 17:11

Lots of irrational hysteria on here about transpeople.

Oh look, there’s that word again...

Beamur · 17/03/2019 17:10

This is not transphobia.
Making spaces gender neutral or unisex makes women more at risk from predatory men.

Tomtontom · 17/03/2019 17:06

Doesn't bother me either. Lots of irrational hysteria on here about transpeople.

FullOfJellyBeans · 17/03/2019 17:01

I'd be totally fine with it. I hated the communal ones - awful. Ideally they'd have lockable doors but it wouldn't bother me either way.

QueenoftheBiscuitTin · 17/03/2019 17:00

Do women even have a choice on these things anymore?

RomanyQueen1 · 17/03/2019 17:00

I don't use changing rooms anyway they're minging usually or full of stock/ hangers.
My dd has never used them either, try on at home and take back to exchange if they don't fit.

FemalePersonator · 17/03/2019 16:55

the facts are clear that unisex places are less safe for women.

Men's hurtz feelz will always come first.

Beamur · 17/03/2019 16:52

If you ignore the emotive excluded trans narrative, the facts are clear that unisex places are less safe for women.
So, places that are trying to do 'the right thing's are putting women at greater risk than they were before.

Pinkbells · 17/03/2019 16:47

I can't wait to go the new local one! But I wouldn't be trying anything on in the changing rooms anyway - always try things on at home. I suppose having gender neutral rooms as well as male and female is OK. Not so good to have them all that way, though.

starzig · 17/03/2019 16:46

You never see communal changing rooms any more. We all have to queue for a cubicle. I miss the communal spaces.

BirdieInTheHand · 17/03/2019 16:43

Not only would I (and my teens) feel deeply uncomfortable getting changed where we could be seen by the opposite sex but my DH said he'd feel deeply uncomfortable about accidentaly seeing something he shouldn't.

He doesn't want to get changed around girls and women. Because he's not a creep. The people driving this are nuts!

FemalePersonator · 17/03/2019 16:39

Am I reading it wrong? It seems to me that they're adding some gender neutral changing rooms in addition to the male / female ones?

I don't think you are reading it wrong. Unless Primark are building new changing rooms - and I didn't see anything in the evidence to make me think they are - this means re-purposing existing changing rooms to "gender neutral". My guess is that it is women's changing rooms that will be sacrificed. And that they will be next to / mixed with women's changing rooms.

And if anyone thinks that individuals like the cheerful person in the photo are going to use the "gender neutral" changing rooms, they are very mistaken. To do so would not validate their identity.

To make a long story short: men will be using women's changing rooms.

starzig · 17/03/2019 16:37

Best not go to Primark then. Bound to get myself raped and the video put up on the internet.

Biancadelrioisback · 17/03/2019 16:34

Flossie even...

Biancadelrioisback · 17/03/2019 16:33

flossy that's what I was wondering

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DointItForTheKids · 17/03/2019 16:31

I suppose is raises that question doesn't it, none of us can look at someone and know their intentions, look at them and know at what stage of transition they are at or whether they're just pretending to be a woman to get access to women/children.

So let me work this out. The 'non-gender' changing rooms will be for the trans people so the trans people WON'T be allowed to go into the Women's or Men's changing rooms? (The trans 'women' I mean). Surely they won't be happy with that?! Or will they? And presumably they've taken away women's only changing room spaces to make room for these ones! I wonder at what proportion, I didn't check to see if it said.

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FlossieTeacakesFurCoat18 · 17/03/2019 16:23

Am I reading it wrong? It seems to me that they're adding some gender neutral changing rooms in addition to the male / female ones? I actually think that's a better solution than either letting self-identified "women" who are actually cross-dressing men use the ladies'?

OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 17/03/2019 16:20

This gives me the rage.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 17/03/2019 16:17

Brilliant sad face in that link! 😂

The poor men not being allowed to change with the teenage girls.

FemalePersonator · 17/03/2019 16:14

Excellent use of photographs.

MrsPussinBoots · 17/03/2019 16:12

metro.co.uk/2019/03/16/transgender-woman-18-sexually-assaulted-girl-10-morrisons-toilet-8914577/

It doesn't appear that the type of door/curtain makes a difference.

LeadMeToTheChocolate · 17/03/2019 16:01

As a mother of a teenage girl, this makes my blood boil.
How dare they?!

ZuttZeVootEeeVro · 17/03/2019 15:55

Particularly popular with teenage girls.

So is Topshop, another company targeted by tra.