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The 24 year harassment of the Vancouver rape relief and women's shelter

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DJLippy · 16/03/2019 19:04

Interesting article here about the 24 year campaign against the Vancouver women's shelter for its refusal to allow trans identified females into its space. I'd heard about the law suit but didn't know about all these other acts. Honestly starting to feel like Trans Right Activism is just mens Right Advocates in a dress. Why can't no one see how batshit insane and EVIL these activists are?

makemorenoisemanc.wixsite.com/mysite/mmnblog/the-harassment-of-vancouver-rape-relief-women-s-shelter-and-its-supporters

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SophoclesTheFox · 31/08/2019 08:13

Thanks zebra, I found the other thread this morning with the recommendations and have been making some donations. It just pleases me to specifically donate to causes targeted by our would-be overlords Grin

I donate via a CAF account that I fund through GAYE, and I’ve asked that they approve VRR as an overseas recipient. I’ll send the donation in your name, Morgane 😬

zebrasdontwearbras · 31/08/2019 07:49

Sophocles - Karen Ingala Smith's charity might be a good one - Nia.

She's v forceful in speaking up for women-only spaces.

SophoclesTheFox · 31/08/2019 07:40

Oger is a very disturbing individual.

Just horrific behaviour. I’m donating again to VRR, so thanks again to TRAs for helping busy, distracted me find a good place to send the money I have earmarked for charities supporting women.

If you know of any UK charities staffed by and run for Evil T*RFs, I’d appreciate the heads up on that too.

2BthatUnnoticed · 30/08/2019 23:52

VRR is female only. It includes trans people who are female (TM). So it is already trans inclusive.

Stay strong, VRR. Women all around the world support you and your work. Your strength in the face of this abusive
behaviour is inspiring.

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zebrasdontwearbras · 30/08/2019 18:39

It makes me feel physically sick to read those tweets by Oger.

An actual women's refuge being subjected to the types of attacks, and coercive control that is indistinguishable from the very behaviour that women needing the service are trying to escape from.

Couldn't make it up.

TheChampagneGalop · 30/08/2019 17:30

This is what Oger sounds like.

The 24 year harassment of  the Vancouver rape relief and women's shelter
ThePurported · 30/08/2019 17:21

As I have previously offered, I am ready to help VRR get out of their mess if they wish to.

Urgh, fuck off you creep. How on earth did this person get into a position of power?
I'm going to double my monthly donation to VRR. It's not much, but hopefully every little helps.

Datun · 30/08/2019 17:12

Oger just making sure with every bloody word that their power is diminishing.

First they're a champion of Yaniv. Now threatening rape victims.

Score. Again.

littlbrowndog · 30/08/2019 16:25

Omg ogers comments just so creepy. Do as I say women or else
I can help you if only you obey me
There is a way out of this if only you obey me

SunsetBeetch · 30/08/2019 16:14

Yes, Champagne. Why on earth would women dedicated to protecting and caring for women who have been raped do something which would obviously upset them and make them feel unsafe? It makes no sense.

These posts sum it up for me:

The 24 year harassment of  the Vancouver rape relief and women's shelter
SunsetBeetch · 30/08/2019 16:12

This is not so great, and neither are some of the comments. But what can you expect from Prick News?

A shelter that excludes trans women keeps getting vandalised t.co/BkE9thDNK4

TheChampagneGalop · 30/08/2019 15:24

I'm disturbed by the comments on twitter that say "you did it to yourselves terfs, no trans people uses the slogan trans power". Not a shred of empathy for the victims using the service. And if they are genuine users and not sockpuppets, not a thought that it might instead be a non-trans violent man who targetted the shelter using trendy words.

GlitchStitch · 30/08/2019 09:39

This is a great article.

www.google.com/amp/s/spectator.us/trans-activism-vandalizing-womens-shelter-vancouver/amp/

GirlDownUnder · 30/08/2019 08:06

Bloody hell 2B MO just does.not.stop.

I'll rinse and repeat my earlier comment because this is MO doubling down on their position of a few days ago.

A ‘mess’ Oger created. And this sounds like a direct threat or extortion. This sounds like something I’d expect to hear from a pimp, abuser, or terrorist.

The good news is, is if MO carries on as we know MO will it's their political career they're flushing because the optics are terrible.

2BthatUnnoticed · 30/08/2019 08:00

I’ve donated again. This is coercive, abusive behaviour.

The 24 year harassment of  the Vancouver rape relief and women's shelter
GirlDownUnder · 30/08/2019 07:11

This whole thing just fucks me off, but the tweet posted upthread by Oger is just morally bankrupt.

Regrettably but predictably, VRR choosing to ignore Canada's civil rights laws causes blow-back.
What laws are they breaking exactly? Only a minor point MO but they won their court case, so this is bollocks. (see below)

I empathize VRR feel threatened by the predictable response to their conduct.
So they were asking for it, and MO empathises. With who exactly - I’d say the perpetrators.

As I have previously offered, I am ready to help VRR get out of their mess if they wish to.
A ‘mess’ Oger created. And this sounds like a direct threat or extortion. This sounds like something I’d expect to hear from a pimp, abuser, or terrorist.

VRR v Nixon
On December 19, 2003 the Supreme Court decided that there was an error in judgement in the previous tribunal. The Vancouver Rape Relief was not guilty of discrimination based on the group’s right of freedom of association. This meant that the group had the right to organize as women-only space, irrespective of gender identity.
Following this decision Nixon appealed to the British Columbia Court of Appeal who unanimously maintained the previous decision by the Supreme Court of BC. They held that Vancouver Rape Relief Society was protected under the Human Rights Code, Section 41. This allowed the society to abide by its women-only policy, based on its rational and interests in serving women. On February 1, 2007 the Supreme Court of Canada dismissed Nixon’s request to appeal the decision. Nixon was also charged with covering the awarded costs of Vancouver Rape Relief, which she has refused to pay.

Doesn’t MO still owe their ex wife and Sunshine Coast $120,000 each?

SunsetBeetch · 29/08/2019 18:19

Women-Only Rape-Relief Shelter Defunded, Then Vandalized t.co/WLJOOg2C0M

www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/women-only-rape-relief-shelter-defunded-then-vandalized/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

SunsetBeetch · 29/08/2019 06:45

Julie Bindel:

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1166734108887851008?s=19

THREAD: In the midst of the most grotesque attacks vilification of one of the best rape crisis centres on the planet, I am posting my 2004 piece from the Guardian, the one that led to 15 years (to date) of hell from the trans-extremists. I don't regret writing this for a minute,

except I would leave out some of the rude, childish humour. But I wrote the piece because they had 10 years of hell by that stage, fighting off a Jessica Yaniv – type human rights case. these women are pioneers, and have saved lives. But now they have dead rats nailed to the

door of their building, and graffiti, "Die TERFS". These attacks are by so-called progressives, supported by a number of leftist men and women. All you cowards that haven't yet spoken out, but can see that this is a men's rights movement, can you do so now? Please?

You surely can't sit back and let this continue?

t.co/nP7foY1Mg6

SunsetBeetch · 28/08/2019 20:45

Actually got some news coverage:

Excellent reporting and thank- you for covering the on-going targeting of Vancouver Rape Relief! It’s so terrorizing for survivors to have to deal with @PaulHaysom @BC1 t.co/Vz3imhBGCy

SunsetBeetch · 28/08/2019 18:06

Was just coming here to post this thread JustTurtles. They really can't help themselves.

"Shall we see what TRAs are saying about the latest attack on Vancouver Rape Relief?

  • "You kind of brought it on yourself"
  • "It's faked / a false flag" ( the internet detectorising is as shit as you'd expect
  • "I don't condone it but I understand it"
  • "Lol"
  • "Terf"
  1. t.co/JQxtRaEGAj "

twitter.com/underhandrea/status/1166756853449154562?s=19

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 28/08/2019 16:27

The comments from trans activists on Twitter seem to be variations of "They deserved it" or "They're lying".
Same old misogynistic attitudes to rape victims.

Wurzelsnewhead · 28/08/2019 14:17

Oh and donated to VRR.
💐 for standing by women despite 24years of this bs.

Wurzelsnewhead · 28/08/2019 14:14

Oger and McKinnon’s twitter feeds are remarkably similar in their gloating and overt, deeply engrained hatred of women
I struggle to understand why people with such animosity then endeavour to be part of the same class they despise. Is it actually self hate that propels their actions? All very odd.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 28/08/2019 11:02

These people, including Oger, are out of control. Their behaviour is escalating.

This is typical of a certain category of offender, which is as much as I'm going to say lest I'm banned.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 28/08/2019 10:53

Oger's a monster.

Yaniv's a sick fucker, but Oger's worse.

I have a cynical, black heart, but this honestly makes me feel like crying...