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Help with replying to woke comment at work

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GenderIsAPrison · 16/03/2019 18:12

It's #internationalwomensday - lets continue to advocate for the equality of all women. Gender is ever expanding & does not only apply to just cisgender women, but to women of all gender identities & expressions

This post on the work intranet makes me seeth. Especially as people are liking and agreeing with it.
How do I respectfully comment and turn around the narrative? Maybe I should just let it go....?

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BolloxtoGender · 18/03/2019 21:23

Thank you for supporting women, i.e. all adult human females. I agree there is still such a way to go before we are rid of sexist gender stereotypes that harm us all (albeit in different ways). My heart goes out to women all round the world who are victims of sex based oppression or unconscious bias.

That’s the safe reply I’ve gone for based on a posters.

Not sure what difference it makes apart from making me feel better for speaking out.

Let’s see how or if it escalates.

OccasionalKite · 17/03/2019 23:33

theOtherPamAyres

That's a really good, honest answer!

OnlineAlienator · 17/03/2019 23:25

YES, fekko!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 17/03/2019 23:21

How come gender only expands to encroach into the ‘woman’ bit? Why isn’t a man in a dress expanding the ‘men’ bit? (Sorry it’s too late to be eloquent).

theOtherPamAyres · 17/03/2019 23:18

You had one job on International Woman's Day - to raise awareness and reflect on the attitudes and unfair treatment meted out to the female sex. You could have pointed to the epidemic of violent crimes against them, or the way society would cease to function without their role as carers of children, dependents and the frail elderly.

Instead, you chose to diminish them. You chose to draw attention to people who are not female and suffer none of the disadvantages that go with being a girl and a woman.

Save your homilies for International Trans Day, the Trans Day of Remembrance and Trans Health Week. Give us back OUR day or feck the feck off.

RepealTheGRA · 17/03/2019 21:10

SpartacusAutisticusAHF has it. Though fuck off, Jamie is a close second.

Great user name BadPennyNoBiscuit

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 17/03/2019 20:58

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Gobbolinothewitchscat · 17/03/2019 20:07

Ah. A man did write it. I would be tempted to respond:

Thank you, Fred (or whatever his name is) for speaking on behalf of womenkind. I hope it's not presumptious of me to thank you on our behalf. Hmm

Maybe without the Hmm though. Who has asked this presumptious twat to post this or is it something he has decided to do of his own volition?

Bowlofbabelfish · 17/03/2019 11:56

Gender is inflationary now? Wow.

Hey perhaps bullshit is darkmatter!

I mean don’t, they’ll fire you...

Freespeecher · 17/03/2019 00:06

Why note take a leaf from Tracey Ullman's book and type "Fuck off, Jamie"?

EcclesThePeacock · 16/03/2019 22:59

OP, maybe you need to make a note on your calendar for 19th November, and post this:

It's #internationalmensday - lets continue to advocate for the equality of all men. Gender is ever expanding & does not only apply to just cisgender men, but to men of all gender identities & expressions

CaptainMarvelBunting · 16/03/2019 22:10

Gender is expanding? Is Gender another word for the universe? Or is it like a reeaaally stretchy belt?Confused

StealthPolarBear · 16/03/2019 22:05

I vote for BadPennyNoBiscuit

Omgineedanamechange · 16/03/2019 21:57

Katvonchangedlightbulb has got it. Say that.

GenderIsAPrison · 16/03/2019 21:57

Software engineer!

Is it a thing?

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GroggyLegs · 16/03/2019 21:53

I KNEW it would be a man.

Second guess... Is he in I.T?

BadPennyNoBiscuit · 16/03/2019 21:45

''Gender is ever expanding - but we all know who has to clean the bogs, amirite?''

GenderIsAPrison · 16/03/2019 20:24

Great suggestions MN. Thank you.

It is a difficult line to tread, as it is work and not anonymous.

@gobolinothewitchscat. Yes it was a man that wrote it.
Rainbow 🌈 flag as back ground in his profile picture...oh...and a beard....Yep. Caricature of a cliche....

@ecclesthepeacock. That could well happen....

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ginghamstarfish · 16/03/2019 19:38

What a pile of utter crap. Agree you should not let it go unchallenged though, good ideas above re peak transing ...

EcclesThePeacock · 16/03/2019 19:24

In next week's FWR news, an MNer who unbeknownst to the OP works at the same company will be here in distress at the responses to the original comment from a woman she'd previously hoped was a fellow feminist but who's outwoked the woke.Grin

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 16/03/2019 19:22

Actually giggling out loud here and I am normally a right po face about things I read online. Pleeeeeaaaseee use some of these

Alternatively just reply "pardon?" As that email just looks like a jumble of words

Did a man write it, by the way?

kesstrel · 16/03/2019 19:17

Love all the suggested replies, though.

kesstrel · 16/03/2019 19:15

It's religious. "Our faith is ever-expanding, and doesn't apply only to us, but to all the peoples of the world". It's a parallel of what Paul said about Christianity should encompass not just the Jewish people, as the disciples originally thought, but must be extended to the Gentiles as well. Totally, totally bizarre

terfsandwich · 16/03/2019 19:08

Or you could comment sadly, with a link to Pip Bunce, that you wonder how many people share his feelings but are too afraid to come out and do the lady some days thing at work. Post a link to Stonewall's "acceptance without exception" list and say how sad you are that kink shaming means men who are cross dressers do not feel free to express their kink at work like Pips Bunce does. End with a comment about sex positivity. That usually shuts down responses.

terfsandwich · 16/03/2019 19:04

Yes! I would say its saddening that you read Sharon Davies say all elite female athletes she spoke to privately think transwomen in sport are cheating. Say how pleased you are that none of them are prepared to say their transphobic thoughts publicly, and how good it is they would be attacked on social media if they did.