Stonewall Are Now Writing Letters in the Daily Fail

I'm new to all this but I really don't understand what gives a group of gay men the right to define what a woman is.

Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are Mamello, it's the 8th Rule Of Misogyny.

How I miss TheBewilderness..

I'm new to all this but I really don't understand what gives a group of gay men the right to define what a woman is. 'Trans women are women' ? Says who? Try asking women.

Once again the disingenuousness is infuriating - trans demands couched as rights/equality at the expense of women and girls.

And once again that's a "no" from me with a side order of get tae fuck.

How quickly we forget. The iconic Stonewall riots of 1969 that galvanised the gay rights movement were guided by trans people.

Such bullshit, this kind of history rewriting should piss off most of the men on that list..surely?!

Anyway, as usual I support 'human rights' for transpeople of bloody course. but the rights being demanded are womens rights for males. Cannot get behind that, and I don't think that makes me anti trans at all

Peter Mandelson....

Interesting, for other reasons to see Shaun Woodward. I wonder if he still has his butler.

OJ and Haddick not surprisingly.

Know idea whose behind it - but very disappointed.

Think it's shite

Unsurprised to see Dustin Lance Black on that list, given that the man values women for their womb rental capacity, why would he give a fuck for our rights?

Gutted to see Russell T Davies there, though.

Fuckedoffaboutit i have glanced at that, the “transpeople are the most at risk segment of the LGBT society” ...surely that is a total lie ?
Then the focus on “trans children” children who would not exist were it not for the aggressive push of transactivism and the seduction of you tube vloggers.
Do lesbians really believe that male trans people are more at risk than them ?
Where are their stats to back this up I wonder ?

Yes I've seen it. They need some viability 😬

Datalounge members have rather a lot to say about the male equivalent of the cotton ceiling actually. Mainly around protection of women. They reckon transmen on Grindr are at serious risk of getting battered. They also find it irritating when transmen try to connect with exclusively gay men. Their phrasing would definitely get them banned from MN

Have you seen the GwiththeT campaign running - quite a few signing in support.

I have to say v disappointed.

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Or the boxer-short barrier

Perhaps they have realised no one reads the Guardian any more.

Katvon, only a sub-sample of gay men support the T.

They support it in so far as hot guys can look hot in dresses and it broadens the range of kink they can engage in.

They also support it, cause its nice to be able to hate on people (women) when you've been a victim of hate (homophobia) yourself.

Alas, they dont support it cause they give a toss about people with GD (but its always nice to engage in a bit of virtue signalling).

So where is the heterosexual male equivalent of the cotton ceiling?

Perhaps it could be callled the Y-front curtain

It is pretty clear that being homosexual while living in a homophobic environment drives rather a lot of transition. You'd expect Stonewall to be investigating and campaigning hard to keep transactivism away from children who might be gay. Apparently not.

My God. If I was fucking gay, I'd be convinced the Russians have taken over Stonewall to blast away all the gains of the last 50 years..

Seriously, they are alienating their base, actual same sex attracted people.

They have been openly hateful towards Lesbians, for being who they flaming are; women who love other women.

They are openly hateful of women in general, and actively campaign against our sex based rights so men in dresses can engage in sexual make believe in our changing rooms.

The only good in this, is that their twitter feed is full of push back.

So where is the heterosexual male equivalent of the cotton ceiling? Why aren’t Stonewall encouraging men to sleep with trans women including those with male genitalia? The silence is deafening - and speaks to the unpleasant misogyny that underlies this ideology.

Seems a bit desperate to me. The letter is full of straw men. This is a favourite tactic of Stonewall with phrases such as ‘those who oppose trans equality’ which allows virtue signallers such as our Emma to sign up without needing to think too hard about what they are signing up to.

I’m not against trans equality either if that means treating everyone with dignity and respect no matter how they choose to represent themselves. I am against a law that allows a man to access women’s spaces and compete unfairly in women’s sports just because they declare they feel they are women. This is because women have rights too. I am against a concept called ‘gender identity’ which has no basis in law, has no biological evidence base that it exists, is dependent on a feeling which is unprovable and unquantifiable replacing biological sex which is proven and legally recognised in important areas such as crime recording.

Anthony Watson is tweeting about that campaign. There's list of gay men who support it.

Id be interested to know if any of them have actually had a trans man as a partner? Or does their support merely stretch to thinking biological males should be allowed in female spaces?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Next up: the Heritage Foundation host a Stonewall panel.

Has Stonewall trademarked the 'L' and the 'G'?

*why are they not putting any effort into creating their own spaces in which they can be free to be themselves?

For instance, as women did.*

A thousand times this.

Stonewall seem to be at a loss of what to do next don't they.

Together we will win this fight

or:
Under our rule, on our terms peace will reign, our oppressed people will rise.

If they want to create a world in which they can be free to be themselves, why are they not putting any effort into creating their own spaces in which they can be free to be themselves?

For instance, as women did.