World pi record smashed by female mathematician with help of google

You think you should be told if someone is trans if they do something notable in an open (not single sex) space?

If it's true, yes, we should be told.

I don't think women should be gaslighted when they can clearly see someone described as female is not.
Do you know this for a fact? I can't see any mention of it anywhere (not that we should be told really)

Does the tech world have a high rate of transwomen? was my main point.

"It SUCKS I have to say. Transwomen are VASTLY overrepresented in tech - something about the culture, plus the autism comorbidity. And they do not face any institutional barriers - maybe after they come out, but tech TW are invariably the late transitioning kind and got to adulthood with male privilege and male socialisation. It's the exact opposite of inspiring to see their accomplishments celebrated as female accomplishments"

This exactly ^

And the fact that they run the internet is partly why we as actual biological women are no longer allowed to have a word to describe us as such.

An Adam's apple is usually a feature of adult males, because its size in males tends to increase considerably during puberty. However, some women also have an Adam's apple

from wiki

by the way, everyone has one, just mens are usually more prominent

I think this is a terrible thing to say.

It's just observation. I did say I didn't post about it yesterday because I think there are more pressing things to focus on and it was fairly obvious how the thread would end up. I don't think women should be gaslighted when they can clearly see someone described as female is not.

that is your shortcoming

I'm sure I have many shortcomings, but none of them are that I have yet to meet a woman with an adam's apple.

I have never known a woman with an Adams' apple who didn't also have a penis

that is your shortcoming.
They do exist. They are not even that unusual.
As I said - you are projecting your assumptions here. Women (again, not transwomen) do sometimes have a prominent adams apple.

I hope my daughter will have enough sense to find out if someone is trans before jumoing to conclusions as you have done.

Sorry, it's pretty obvious from the various photos and the write up Pink News did. Body shape, jawline, adams apple and one photo where it's clear what side they 'dress on'.

I think this is a terrible thing to say.

I have never known a woman with an Adams' apple who didn't also have a penis. I don't live in an all-male commune and have known the normal amount of women, what with them being half the population.

Lesbian was italicised because it's important to the sentence. Lesbians tend to not be keen on penis.

you must only know a very limited group of women, if you have never seen one with an adams apple.
Some women, (not trans) do have them. It isn't that weird, odd or unusual.

Some women also have very 'masculine' body shapes, broad shoulders and narrow hips for example, or very tall and square.

None of those make them a man, it just means they are part of the wide range of women.

Not sure why the 'lesbian' is in italics. I am obviously missing something there

I struggle with the fact that you think having an adam's apple is the same as being a bit tall.

Your daughter as a lesbian may well not be as impressed by a lesbian with an adam's apple.

Funkaccino - you started this. It was your post that said - Oh maybe she is trans.
You derailed a thread about a woman's achievment in the tech world with your own prejudice, and preconception, and you are still going, post after post, saying on the one hand Oh maybe she isn't, and on the other hand - Oh but look at that adam's apple.

I wonder - do you have a problem with successful women yourself? Do ou struggggle with the idea we should be celebrating her achievement? because your posts certainly suggest that you do.

Heaven forbid that we could have athread about women that isn't about trans.

well done

Sorry, it's pretty obvious from the various photos and the write up Pink News did. Body shape, jawline, adams apple and one photo where it's clear what side they 'dress on'.

I did notice early on yesterday when the article was first posted but refrained from commenting back then because recording breaking Pi is fairly innocuous and there are bigger issues than this one particular individual.

It does however feed into the constant rewriting of female history and it's jarring to be told your eyes deceive you all the time. I don't see how that is inspiring for young girls.

Emma Haruka Iwao does not seem to be making a big deal about being a woman. The OP made however sees it as a big deal. Which apparently means her Adam's apple is fair game

Your daughter's sexuality is also not relevant to her dress sense. Clothes don't make gender or sexuality.

except that for a certain group of butch lesbian women they sort of do link very closely. That exact group of women who are getting such a hard time in the current trans atmosphere, that group who are talked about on all the feminist boards.....

she has a prominant adams apple, that is part of her looks! Maybe she feels self conscious about it! No - just go ahead and delare her male.That is really similar to saying she is tall for a woman, or has too broad shoulders, or .....

No, not really similar at all.

Oh ffs.

I'm becoming increasingly glad that my DD, a budding engineer, is short and curvy and will only have good old-fashioned sexism to deal with.

you ARE discussing her looks!

she has a prominant adams apple, that is part of her looks! Maybe she feels self conscious about it! No - just go ahead and delare her male.

That is really similar to saying she is tall for a woman, or has too broad shoulders, or .....

don;t be disingeneous and say - Oh its okay to diss her because we wondered if she was male

There is no evidence she is trans, other than your own short sighted prejudice about ehr looks. My dd, the one up thread who learnt pi to 100 decimal places, is gay and is mistaken for a boy every day due to her style.

No one is discussing her fashion sense, or her hair cut or anything else. Just the adam's apple. Your daughter's sexuality is also not relevant to her dress sense. Clothes don't make gender or sexuality.

and I will be sending my dd a link to the article on this woman, so she has a role model in the tech industry doing something she would relate to.
That is why the headline matters

bloody hell, this thread has made me cross.

There is no evidence she is trans, other than your own short sighted prejudice about ehr looks.

My dd, the one up thread who learnt pi to 100 decimal places, is gay and is mistaken for a boy every day due to her style.
If she goes on to do somethign amazing in tech, will you all have a thread wondering if she is trans.

CELEBRATE the fact a women is making headlines for this, please.
You have all derailed a good thread and I am cross.

My same dd learnt all the elements in the periodic table last year, for fun, I am celebrating a girl who loves science and maths.
Actually dd2 does as well.

Lets encourage them shall we.

(or we could just shoot ourselves in the foot and moan about trans women instead of celebrating the actual women doing stuff)

what exactly are you celebrating? The woke are celebrating a person with a "lady brain" being able to do tech/maths/science. Like that's the impressive bit. They might as well give women an award that says "not as stupid as the rest".

How about, celebrating a woman who hasn't been stymied by gender stereotypes, unlike so many others?

22/7 is only an approximation of pi. Pi is an irrational number. You can't write it like that.