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Independent Inquiry into Child sexual abuse investigates David and Aimee Challenor

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EweSurname · 14/03/2019 10:33

Live stream here:

www.iicsa.org.uk/live

OP posts:
BeUpStanding · 14/03/2019 13:23

Thank you very much for that history of safeguarding framework key developments R0. Really useful to see how it all fits together.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/03/2019 13:22

I'm not surprised. The party is small and has a lot to loose.

I've been watching the inquiry; it's horribly fascinating and shocking how much was dismissed or ignored or not followed up on.

So much hiding in plain sight.

Datun · 14/03/2019 13:21

caramelwaffle

Right. So they are fully immersed in the ideology and accept that their ideology takes precedence over child safeguarding?

Are they trans?

caramelwaffle · 14/03/2019 13:20
  • with someone who is wrong -
caramelwaffle · 14/03/2019 13:19

Datun

I have nothing to do with mainstream politics i.e. Lab/Con/Lib/etc

This is to do with close friendships and small circles - including mine. No. They don't fear h. They protect h, and themselves. Because they are very vocal on SM and IRL. They HAVE TO stand with someone is wrong otherwise their whole identity, their whole life choices, their wholesale attack on women falters.

When people here post links to attacks on women, I actually look to see if I can recognise anyone behind the balaclavas.

One day they will wake to a knock on their door.

rocketromano · 14/03/2019 13:17

I wonder if mainstream press will bother to report on this. The fact that DC was involved in policy decisions related to reducing safeguarding while carrying out the most despicable crimes against a young girl ... and that AC couldn’t see why this was a problem. It’s mindblowingly bad and needs sunlight and lots of it

ThePurportedDoctoress · 14/03/2019 13:13

The greens are still trying to silence people within their party who try to object to other things connected the fall out of all this. It's a witch hunt.

I know a couple of people socially who are involved in their local Green party, and when I mentioned the Challenors to them, they claimed they hadn't even heard about the case! One of these people is very active in her local party and has stood in local elections.

AbsintheFriends · 14/03/2019 13:07

Not insinuating anything OF COURSE. Just speculating.

AbsintheFriends · 14/03/2019 13:07

That remark made by Boris Johnson was as baffling as it was offensive and stupid. The only reason I can think of someone making such an argument is if they had something on their conscience.

R0wantrees · 14/03/2019 13:05

Yes the investigation will conclude with a report and recommendations... Not sure how much 'teeth' the iicsa have though for ensuring recommendations get implemented

The history of Safeguarding framework key developments illustrates this:

When there is a major incident eg the abuse and deaths of Maria Colwell,Victoria Climbie, Holly Wells and Jessicca Chapman, Peter Connolly the ensuing reviews led to significant understandings of the framework failings and therefore potentially more robust Child Protection and Safeguarding informed by legislation.

NSPCC History of Child Protection:
1945
The first formal child death inquiry in England was the Curtis Committee Report into the death of Dennis O'Neill, who was killed at the age of 12 by his foster father.

1973
The death of 7-year-old Maria Colwell led to the establishment of our modern child protection system.

1984
Further changes were prompted partly by the inquiries into several other child deaths, including 4-year-old Jasmine Beckford.

1989
The Children Act 1989 established the legislative framework for the current child protection system in England and Wales.

1995
The Children (Northern Ireland) Order 1995 and the Children (Scotland) Act 1995 established the legislative framework for the current child protection systems in Northern Ireland and Scotland.

2000
The death of 8-year-old Victoria Climbie led to Lord Laming’s report (2003) which led to sweeping changes to the way children's services were structured in England and Wales.

2001
The Children's Commissioner for Wales Act 2001 created the first children’s commissioner post in the UK.

2002
The deaths of 10-year-olds Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in Soham led to the strengthening of legislation across the UK to protect children from adults who pose a risk to them.

2004
The Children Act 2004, informed by Lord Laming’s report, established a Children’s Commissioner in England (the last of the UK nations to appoint one); created Local Safeguarding Children's Boards (LSCBs) in England and Wales; and placed a duty on local authorities in England to appoint a director of children’s services and an elected lead member for children’s services, who is ultimately accountable for the delivery of services.

2006
Scotland the Minister for Children published a review of the Children’s Hearing System, entitled Getting it right for every child (Creegan, C., Henderson, G., and King, C., 2006), highlighting a dramatic increase in identified children with multiple needs.

2008
The death of 1-year-old Peter Connelly led to further reviews of social service care in England by Lord Laming, with the House of Commons debating the case.

2009
Lord Laming’s The protection of children in England: a progress report (2009), ordered following the Peter Connelly case, makes 58 recommendations for child protection reforms.

2010
The new Secretary of State for Education, Michael Gove, commissioned Professor Eileen Munro to conduct an independent review of child protection in England.

2010
Minister for Children and Families Tim Loughton announced that Local Safeguarding Boards in England should publish the overview report and executive summary of all case reviews initiated on or after 10 June 2010.

2011
Professor Munro’s report A child-centred system (2011) set out recommendations to “help to reform the child protection system from being over-bureaucratised and concerned with compliance to one that keeps a focus on children, checking whether they are being effectively helped, and adapting when problems are identified”.

The Safeguarding Board Act (Northern Ireland) 2011 set out the law for the creation of a new regional Safeguarding Board for Northern Ireland and the establishment of five Safeguarding Panels.

2012
Operation Yewtree was set up to investigate sexual abuse allegations against Jimmy Saville and others.

2013
The Independent review into child sexual exploitation in Rochdale examined the council’s response to issues around child sexual exploitation.

2013
A new version of Working Together to Safeguard Children was published in England, informed by the Munro review.

2014
The Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 provided Wales with its own legislative framework for social services for children and adults.

Under Section 145 it gives powers to Welsh Ministers to issue codes of practice providing guidance, objectives and requirements on local authorities’ provision of social services.

2015
The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse in England and Wales (IICSA) officially launched to consider the growing evidence of institutional failures to protect children from child sexual abuse.

The Children’s Services Co-operation Act (Northern Ireland) 2015 requires public authorities to contribute to the wellbeing of children and young people in regards to physical and mental health, learning and achievement and living conditions.

2016
The Football Association (FA) launched an internal review into child abuse following allegations of child abuse. The Scottish FA announced an independent inquiry.

2017
The Digital Economy Act 2017 extended protection from online pornography by allowing sites which display pornography to children to be blocked in the UK.

2018
An updated version of Working together to safeguard children (Department for Education, 2018) was published for England, replacing LSCBs with safeguarding partner arrangements."
learning.nspcc.org.uk/child-protection-system/history-of-child-protection-in-the-uk/

There will always be risk and tragic incidents however each time the framework is reviewed there is the opportunity to strengthen the protections for children and vulnerable adults.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/03/2019 12:58

Savile stuff very interesting at the moment.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 14/03/2019 12:55

That repellant politician Boris Johnson made some vile remarks about the enquiry:
www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/13/boris-johnson-under-fire-over-remarks-about-child-abuse-inquiries

And on the same day David Steel disclosed that he knew about Cyril Smith's paedophile activities but took no action whatsoever:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cyril-smith-admitted-to-abuse-claims-says-former-liberal-leader-rh3mbwf09?shareToken=b960e3ccf3358cfc83d18a0dabbc3703

No wonder child abuse is so prevalent in the UK with this lot in charge.

BeUpStanding · 14/03/2019 12:49

Cross-posted again!

Thanks R0, that's good to know.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/03/2019 12:49

There's a damn good reason Caroline Lucas stepped down.

BeUpStanding · 14/03/2019 12:49

Cross-posted with R0! The link to iicsa answers my question.

Yes the investigation will conclude with a report and recommendations... Not sure how much 'teeth' the iicsa have though for ensuring recommendations get implemented

R0wantrees · 14/03/2019 12:47

Does anyone know what the possible outcomes are of this inquiry? Is it an information gathering exercise, or will there be recommendations

There will inevitably be significant legisative as well as policy changes as a consequence.
Safeguarding and Child Protection frameworks are always informed by the findings of inquiries.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/03/2019 12:45

Agree with Caramel from what I know though I know less.

The greens are still trying to silence people within their party who try to object to other things connected the fall out of all this. It's a witch hunt.

BeUpStanding · 14/03/2019 12:44

Thanks for the link.

Does anyone know what the possible outcomes are of this inquiry? Is it an information gathering exercise, or will there be recommendations - and if so, can they be enforced?

R0wantrees · 14/03/2019 12:40

link to website:

Our task is to make sure that children get the care and protection from sexual abuse they need and deserve, now and in the future.

www.iicsa.org.uk/

R0wantrees · 14/03/2019 12:38

I'm very close to people who are very close to all of this. They knew. They ALL knew. They colluded. I climbed at least three peaks after finding out about the court cases.

Hopefully any evidence is being submitted to the Inquiry.
Those who colluded and are continuing to collude in a cover-up represent a serious Safeguarding risk

Datun · 14/03/2019 12:37

caramelwaffle

Why did they collude? Was it fear? Of Aimee?

HawayMan · 14/03/2019 12:31

And ideally hope that Andy gets an apology. He was suspended wasn't he? Sad

HawayMan · 14/03/2019 12:30

This stinks of Jimmy Saville! Have we learned nothing?

caramelwaffle · 14/03/2019 12:27

I'm very close to people who are very close to all of this. They knew. They ALL knew. They colluded. I climbed at least three peaks after finding out about the court cases.

Then MN starting finding out.

The fashions have changed, but the clothes are still the same. The Emporers new clothes.

Datun · 14/03/2019 12:03

It doesn't look very robust to me. It's a good job other people know the story, and are pushing back.

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