Munroe Bergdorf Hertford says clothes are not gendered (Title edited by MNHQ)

Isn't Munroe from Hertfordshire?

Different sources say either Stanstead Mountfitchet (in Essex) or Stanstead Abbots. The latter is almost right next door to Hertford!

Isn't Munroe from Hertfordshire?

I've got stitch 🤣

Or is it a location? (Like Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells).

Who did they marry? I’m nosey.

Maybe Munro got married and is now to be known as Munroe Bergdorf Hertford.

What’s the Hertford? Did they get married or something?

Bloody hell, I agree with something Bergdorf says

I often wonder how many 'trans' people there would be if stereotypes weren't so prominent. As so many, especially younger people..seem to be 'trans' just because they like stuff associated with the opposite sex, rather than have sex dysphoria.

I honestly do not think anyone is trans if they do not have body dysphoria. How can they be? If its all about skirts or playing with dolls or whatever..thats just..being a kid and liking what you like, theres nothing wrong with that...basically, what is trans if not dysphoria over your sex?

I see that MB hasn't responded to any of the comments to MB's tweet
wouldn't it be great if they peak transed and then had a public re canting?
(not holding my breath though)

Even better title edit now: Munroe Bergdorf Hertford! Whoever is on this evening clearly hasn't heard of Munroe!

To which the only reply is ‘poor soul - does anyone know who this person is? They seem to be confused and have forgotten their name...’

Great title edit. Surprised MB hasn’t come along to say (a la RM) “don’t you know who I am?”.

Came back to this thread to say loving the title edit! 😂

Me too captain

I am crying with laughter at the MNHQ title edit.

Bergdorf Hertford?

Are we watching a giant penny slowly starting to drop?

Nope. Bergdorf if just being stupid. They have a form for this.

Are we watching a giant penny slowly starting to drop? (Doubtful)

I feel like I'm reading a few things at the mo where they're saying exactly what we spend all day saying but don't appear to quite get it.

I'm not sure MB really understands what MB has tweeted. It completely backs up GC people and shows trans ideology to be a nonsense.

Good work, MB! Keep it up!

(how long before MB realises this and deletes the tweet?)

It is awfully nice to see a thread where the GC and the TRAs are agreeing on something, even if they draw different conclusions from the same thing.

It's not just illogical and internally inconsistent, it's also completely fucking ridiculous to think that because you like to wear feminine clothes, you should be able to access female rights. If gender is not innate, and not innately connected to sex, why would sex based rights have anything to do with your 'gender ID'?

Perfectly put.

And if Munroe wasn't so invested in being a woman, it would be case closed.

I agree with previous posters. Monroe's been getting in the neck for prancing around in a skimpy bra and saying all women are a fantasy.

They now want to say that that's not what makes them a woman. Because they've realised the sexism is so overt, it's undermining their credibility.

So instead, they are saying that the way they think makes them a woman, or it's an essence, or whatever. And the clothes are immaterial.

#translogic.

Munroe is talking shit - Munroe and their ilk need gender stereotypes because if those stereotypes didn't exist there would be nothing to 'transition' into.

Munroe is only saying this to sound good. Munroe wouldnt be anything without gender stereotypes.

What could be more man-made than silicon breast implants and surgically altered genitalia?

Very possibly! Had I seen someone dressed like that 5 years ago, that would probably have been my assumption. Maybe I've just read too much about people claiming to be 'literally women' on spurious grounds and so on. (Another problem with the 'misgendering' thing - how do you know, now, if someone sees themselves as a TW or a man in drag...)

That’s just doing an act though surely? Like a drag act?

I've been thinking about this recently, because obviously everyone should be able to wear whatever they like without caring if the clothes are culturally coded masculine or feminine - if they did, eventually the codes would disappear.

But the other day I saw a TW, at 10am on a cold morning, wearing a miniskirt, thigh-high boots, garish makeup, and a headscarf with long hair poking out at the bottom, and it bothered me and made me uncomfortable in a way that just 'man wearing a skirt' never would. It was the sense of sexualisation/fetishisation of womanhood in a very specific way. It's possible for a woman to wear a miniskirt and a headscarf, of course, but I've never seen one do it before, because of the very different cultural connotations of those items of clothing.