4thWaveNow has some incredibly disturbing stuff from Facebook

Sun. Light.

People don't know this is happening because it's so fucking bonkers they wouldn't believe it if it was a fictional Channel 5 documentary.

They need to see it, and not with a vaseline'd lens Mermaids veneer - they need to see that there are people encouraging each other to buy their children items from sex shops and cajole their kids into wearing these things.

A few persistent DM articles and some viral Facebook posts seem just the job, tbh. People won't want to believe it, because it's so awful, but it's the only way it's going to stop.

What is this fuckery? How bad does it have to get before someone (other than old women not content with their alleged gender identity) shout: Stop! This is madness!

I feel like crying and not sure if it's because I'm so angry or just incredibly upset about the children that are being confused and convinced that their bodies are wrong.

What is fucking wrong with people?

Even Maria Miller getting her arse handed to her on Twitter doesn't make me feel any better.

I'm with you TurboTeddy. That was positively restrained.

i’d say that was very necessarily strong, TBH. i’d even go so far as to say it was understated.

Sorry, that was unnecessarily strong; this sort of thing makes me feel so angry.

Will there ever be a day of reckoning for the sick adults that do this to children? I'm not usually a vindictive person but I sincerely hope that if the day ever comes when they (fucking bastards) have to answer for their crimes against childhood that the punishment is severe.

I saw the video you reference Lang. I couldn't bring myself to watch it all, the child was clearly hugely embarrassed about talking about it, so many euphemisms and those mannerisms.

What the fuck is wrong with the adults encouraging this?

Omg I had to stop reading it's horrifying. It's child abuse. It feels actually panic inducing as somebody who was sexual abused - that gut reaction says something very important I think.

Howdamaged are those children going to be growing up? When sll this insanity ends, they will need a lot of support. But who will they have to talk to? The same bloody ‘professionals’ who are pushing this abuse

It can't be defended. You cannot, as a caring responsible parent, defend buying your children sex toys like harnesses and encouraging them to hate their bodies.

I know parents face horrendous challenges, but this is so beyond acceptable I will accept no defence because there cannot possibly be one.

MNHQ better not hive this one off into oblivion. It's not caring parents helping dysphoric and troubled children, it's grown adults behaving like stupid, peer dependent teens, egging each other on to ever more edgy decisions with their own fucking children.

I was reading about the packers (and parents buying them even though their female children actually showed no interest in having one) over the weekend.

Then when people mentioned their children wearing packers with harnesses. I mean WTAF? Harnesses are sex toys! This is really, really creepy. Imagine being one of those children, a confused little girl who probably would have changed her mind about the “boy” thing pretty quickly, but is now stuck wearing fake silicone genitalia because her parents bought it and that’s just the way her life is now...

I won't link but the thread that has most disturbed me from 4th Wave's recent twittering is the one about the child with the YouTube channel who is talking about packers.