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Shon Faye publishing book on trans rights

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PrincessPlummy · 12/03/2019 13:28

'So my first book is being published by Penguin Press. It’s a political discussion (‘polemic’ sounds too angry) how British trans people are discriminated against in every aspect of life. Sick of the media conversation so starting my own. Stay tuned!'

twitter.com/shonfaye/status/1105430715859116033

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JonBinary · 22/07/2021 20:54

That letter is dreadful. The hateful scrawling of a spiteful bully. It doesn't tempt me to buy the book. I can just imagine the poorly written content. My 11 year old can write better than that. Ignore the hate Miranda, although I'm sure you do. Flowers

Datun · 22/07/2021 20:51

Dear lord. This Shon? Whose advice to women is to enjoy their erasure. And whose advice to teens is to be slutty, suck dick, and 'get tits early'?

For the love of God.

Shon Faye publishing book on trans rights
Shon Faye publishing book on trans rights
Soontobe60 · 22/07/2021 20:39

@mirandayardley

Oh, Shon once wrote me a letter.
That’s nice 😳
SmallPug · 22/07/2021 20:29

What will be galling is seeing bookshops fall over themselves to stock this & prominently promote it, when they get so much crap for having one copy of gender critical books. Marginalised my arse. Prioritised more like.

FemaleAndLearning · 22/07/2021 20:14

I just want plain English. Even the reviews are hard to understand. I get the impression this will be more of a jumble of biographies pasted together. If it does clearly set out what rights trans people want that they don't have that would be good for debate.

EishetChayil · 22/07/2021 19:59

Judith Butler!

Anything endorsed by her goes straight dans la poubelle.

ScreamingMeMe · 22/07/2021 19:56

'This is a monumental work and utterly convincing - crystal clear in its understanding of how the world should be' Judith Butler

Ha ha. What the fuck would Judith Butler know about clarity?

Lordamighty · 22/07/2021 19:33

@zanahoria

I saw Owen's book for fifty pence at a car boot sale

I still wasn't tempted

I know this is old but it’s still very funny.
OldCrone · 22/07/2021 19:12

@WhereYouLeftIt

Dearie me, that letter to Miranda! I do hope the book will be professionally edited. Shockingly poor writing.
Shon actually seems to believe that Shon is a woman.
OldTurtleNewShell · 22/07/2021 19:05

@nauticant

They want a special right, that others don't have. It's the right not to hear the word "no".
Nailed it
WhereYouLeftIt · 22/07/2021 19:04

Dearie me, that letter to Miranda! I do hope the book will be professionally edited. Shockingly poor writing.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 22/07/2021 18:46

70 quid is really taking the piss..don't think I have ever seen a book that price, or even half that, in my life!

Some fabulous photographic books cost a lot, about £30 or £40. I've occasionally bought one as a special present. Think how many wonderful photos of Shon there must be in this £70 treasure! Aren't you in raptures at the prospect?

RoyalCorgi · 22/07/2021 16:58

It's always amusing to see Judith Butler talking about clarity as if she has any clue at all what clarity is.

It's also really difficult to imagine that someone as distinguished as Butler believes herself to be would describe a work by the very un-distinguished Shon Faye as "monumental".

witheringrowan · 22/07/2021 16:00

I hope this book will include an analysis of the power structures and privileges at play when Shon was at university, got in a rage with Shon's then girlfriend (this was before Shon identified as gay and was still doing repressed Catholic Brideshead Revisited cosplay) & cut up her clothes and trashed her belongings.

PankhurstConnection · 22/07/2021 15:39

@mirandayardley

Oh, Shon once wrote me a letter.
Erm, eloquent? Hmm
Tesla73 · 22/07/2021 15:37

No doubt Waterstones and Foyles are getting their front windows displays done and a whole wing of the shops ready to promote it

Probably expecting lines around the block for its release (even though we all know that the intended audience never buy anything or spend any of their own money - unless its gofundme cash)

PankhurstConnection · 22/07/2021 15:35

'This is a monumental work and utterly convincing - crystal clear in its understanding of how the world should be' Judith Butler

It's always amusing to see Judith Butler talking about clarity as if she has any clue at all what clarity is.

LastSummerHere · 22/07/2021 15:31

[quote LittleTreehouse1]Seems to be a best seller 7 weeks before release. Has anyone here ordered?

www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0241423147/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_ZT3CNECFGM1Y3292FBKZ?tag=mumsnetforu03-21[/quote]

Hell no. Wouldn't clean the windows with it.

Tesla73 · 22/07/2021 15:31

@RoyalCorgi those snippets of reviews sound very much like the fake ones that you get on self published ebooks

they all contain the usual word salad that they use too - full of words thrown into sentences to make them look clever but they mean nowt

LastSummerHere · 22/07/2021 15:29

Women are erased, according to Faye. And erased people can't buy shit like this.

RoyalCorgi · 22/07/2021 15:26

With extraordinary clarity and intellectual vigour

My arse.

KittenKong · 22/07/2021 15:26

Good publishing deal. Marginalised eh?

RedDogsBeg · 22/07/2021 15:24

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

Could someone tell me what rights transpeople haven't got in the UK, that other people have got?
Trans people with a GRC actually have extra rights over everyone else, they have the right to alter the sex marker on their Birth Certificate which is an official legal document. Furthermore trans people with a GRC are given rights not given to any other member of the sex class they were born into.
RedDogsBeg · 22/07/2021 15:18

I was a bundle of excited anticipation for a moment there, I thought we were finally, finally going to get chapter and verse on what rights trans people don't have compared to the rest of us and what rights they need, and then the bubble burst after the synopsis from BettyDuMonde, such disappointment.

As for that letter to Miranda, the sheer spite just oozes from it. A nasty letter from a nasty individual and as always one of the be kind crew, the oh so tolerant ones, the ones who, unsurprisingly, never practice what they preach.

MirandaFlowers.

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 22/07/2021 15:18

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

Could someone tell me what rights transpeople haven't got in the UK, that other people have got?
They have the same rights as everyone else. What they want is the privilege to enter spaces and places where they are not permitted or wanted.