Pornography for children, what the ever loving fuck.

Having read it's synopsis on the RadioTimes website I think it's going to be an interesting watch. Hopefully strengthening the argument for the forthcoming age block on porn sites. Very relieved that it doesn't sound like it's going to be a bunch of fruity mums making Peppa Pig porn.

I think porn is fine to be honest. I don’t think it should be banned like some people think. I obviously think there are some who aren’t being treated right in the industry and a lot of people turn to doing porn for sad reasons or being pushed into etc. But if people choose to do this as a job and it is a choice then I don’t see the problem. But if you worry about people not wanting to be in it there is porn you can find that is confirmed to be by choice etc and is made by women for women.

I can't see a world of hope that teens are going to go "Oh yes I'll just stick to this nice watered down for teens porn. No chance I'll wander off and watch whatever piques my interest".
The point they're making is fair. The idea that mum approved porn will change anything is naive imo.

Yes HUMANS CANNOT EVER CHANGE. Assuming you're right and such porn exists, would it be harmless? Or is porn only harmful if inscribed with patriarchal values? I'm just not clear on the feminist position on porn. Is it bad in whatever manifestation - say a cooperatively run porn company of female writers, directors and performers catering for a female audience - or just bad Inna patriarchal context?

JulieMoolie The porn you have described with women directing etc already exists. You do have to pay to access it but it does exist. Search for feminist or ethical porn and some websites come up that have information on different sites for ethical porn.

I think I understand the mums thinking. There is a lot of hardcore porn out there and having some tamer stuff for teenagers to watch might seem like a good way to combat them seeing the rougher stuff. However, the hardcore stuff will still be available for free so I’m not sure how it will help. Also, knowing your mum directed it and approves isn’t going to help you get off.

Ok, devil's advocate question here. The main argument against pornography from feminists is that it is exploitative of and misogynist towards women (which most of it is), and therefore perpetuates patriarchy. But just suppose that pornography was completely produced, scripted and performed by women for women. Yes, I know there might seem fat chance of this happening, but just hypothetically suppose such porn were to exist. Suppose these mums were to produce that represented female desires...would there still be an ethical problem? In short, is the media representation of sex for purposes of arousal inherently problematic, or is it only so when it takes place in a patriarchal society?

Presenting children with any porn will allow little girls to see just what the world expects of them at a time when they should still be hopeful for their futures.

There is an obvious need for good educational materials on sex, relationships, consent and critical thinking wrt societal messages around these topics.

Presenting kids with yet more porn seems to me like introducing them to fruit machines in the hope that this will inoculate them against a potential online poker addiction

I know the harm porn does to children from my own experience. It's a big deal. I blocked porn from our home PC but another boy showed my DS horrible stuff when he was only 11. That boy's mother was notorious for the number of men who went through her household and her DS had clearly been damaged by it, with very nasty ideas about women. It was sheer good luck that my son came to me to share the distress he felt over what he'd seen.

I've felt ever since that schools need to confront porn and its messages head on. Showing any form of porn is a terrible idea. It would be better to start by establishing benchmarks for what happy, healthy relationships are like and then comparing what porn says about men, about women, and about the relationship between the sexes.

This is genuinely fucked up. I tried putting a proper reply to this but it was just full of swearing so this shall do..

Obviously wrong, whichever way you slice it.

But also, I can't help wondering why anyone would think that the way to encourage boys to watch 'good' porn is for their mums to direct it so they can have a wank thinking "Mum would really approve of this."

I'm not a bloke or a porn fan, but I'm pretty sure that's not how this works...

I would look very sternly at any Mum who finds this at all appropriate.

I saw this yesterday. It read like the sons were mid teens but I don't know.

If they are not starring in it, then who is? And why is it OK for their sons to get off on watching some woman getting fucked on camera for money, as long as its done in a way that their mum approves of?

a heads up UniLad/Ladbible is not a credible source. I would say they're about as credible as a tabloid like the daily mail but in fact they are worse because they steal their stories from tabloids and twist the story even further

If the mums are actually in the video then that's inappropriate at best and seriously dodgy at worst.

The article was very light on detail. As others have said, how old are these 'children'? That's highly relevant and also that the mothers themselves wouldn't actually be in it, if that is so, also is. It brought back memories of a show I think C4 put out in their early days, which had a psychoanalyst or similar getting parents & children to discuss their sexual fantasies with each other. With the aim of improving their relationship, I believe. It was an utter cringe-fest from beginning to end.

Despite my 'C4, what can you expect' comment, this could be good if done properly. At any rate, it could help counter some of the appalling & dangerous shit currently out there.

Just not sure if C4 will handle it well.

A bit of background about Unilad. Formed by Ladbible, they kind of remind me of those university students who were talking about raping girl students.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNILAD

This is adults showing sexual images to children. So grooming. Sick fucks.

Porn culture.