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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Excellent piece in the Guardian by Owl Fisher 8/3 [Edited by MNHQ]

37 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2019 19:26

Views that were beyond the pale are now commonplace. It is time to stop pretending that all opinions are equal

Contributors are presented as experts when, more often than not, they’re just another person with an opinion. We absorb their hot take on the day’s events often without questioning what lies behind them. Anyone with an opinion is invited on to TV or radio, without a hint of critical analysis

That’s why it’s important that we as consumers are critical of what we are hearing and watching, and are aware of where it’s coming from. We need to stop mindlessly accepting that everything we are fed is objective, be critical of the sources and who’s speaking. I constantly get contacted by media platforms to debate a range of topics related to trans issues — despite having no expertise in the specific topic being discussed — simply because I’m a trans person. Lived experience is important, but that doesn’t mean I can comment on the specific effects of testosterone on people’s bodies. For that you need a scientist.

amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/08/public-debate-is-a-shouting-match-what-we-need-is-experts?__twitter_impression=true

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zanahoria · 08/03/2019 21:05

I always get Ox and Fowl mixed up

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/03/2019 20:03

I thought owl declared that they were non binary - so can only talk about... nothing?

Man marries woman... such days!

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/03/2019 20:03

I suspect they wanted to express the opposite of what the article actually says, they wanted "centre transpeople" but have said the opposite due to limited expression and articulation.

Thingybob · 08/03/2019 19:58

We need to demand that people with either relevant expertise or those directly affected are at the centre, and not just anyone

I guess that means that women are allowed to speak out about women's issues as they are directly affected?

Ereshkigal · 08/03/2019 19:47

I hope Owl therefore enjoyed today's R4 discussion between scientists and Nick Robinson.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 08/03/2019 19:43

Absolutely - the amount of born males now claiming to be women and to know more about being a woman is outrageous. So glad to have Owl Fisher on the side of biological women.

Funkyfunkybeat12 · 08/03/2019 19:41

Does that mean Owl and Fox are now married and that Owl took Fox’s surname? They are quite traditional at heart aren’t they?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2019 19:35

Shoots own foot and leaves.

Indeed. That degree of cognitive dissonance is impressive. Unless of course they are actually coming out on the side of science.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 08/03/2019 19:31

Easy mistake to make after world book day! (Gruffalo)

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/03/2019 19:31

Owl not fox

Oops Blush - I will ask MNHQ to correct.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 08/03/2019 19:30

Bless.

Shoots own foot and leaves.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 08/03/2019 19:29

Owl not fox.